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I see many people posting diets and threads asking for critiques and advice... I am going to post some foods that should be avoided when you are cutting... I see a lot of common mistakes that people make when on a cut and I wanted to try to help as many as I can with their cutting diet...

AVOID...

Saturated fat
High calories from fat (more than half of total calories is not good!)
Sodium (some is okay but keep it to a minimum)
High amounts of sugar
High amounts of dairy
High fructose corn syrup
Hydrogenated Oils
Trans Fats
Carb loading
Juices
Soda


Some foods that have the misconception to be eaten on a cut that HINDER CUTTING

rice
potatoes
salmon
red meats
milk
soy

THESE ARE NOT GOING TO BE HELPFUL WHEN CUTTING...

I see a lot of people having these in their cutting diet and it is hindering your cutting... Trust me on this...

There are other things out there that are not helpful when cutting but these are some things that I see common mistakes being made with...
 
Only carb I eat while cutting is sweet potato. It is a complex carb and even though brown rice is as well the sweet potato is my choice. I also do not eat any carbs while cutting except in my post workout meal. I couldn't even tell you what regular potatoes taste like as I don't even eat those or white rice while bulking. Straight crap IMO. Great post D! Good info there bro.
 
i'm cutting and dylan recommended i back out my brown rice which i thought would be shitty but it actually hasn't been so bad. i'm workin at removing as many carbs as possibly and just incorporate a variety of veggies (mainly broccoli, cauliflower, spinach) which is going to have "some" carbs. also i'm taking in a good 15 - 30g carbs in shakes. i'd say at the end of the day i'm averaging about 50g/day. i've thought about picking up some ketosis strips just to check things out b/c i'm probably getting some light ketogenic action. now with that said, i'm curious if i should be doing a light carb day say sunday with some brown rice, sweet potatoes and beans. or maybe this is my subconscious trying to cheat a little... dylan thoughts?
 
obsessedwliftin said:
Only carb I eat while cutting is sweet potato. It is a complex carb and even though brown rice is as well the sweet potato is my choice. I also do not eat any carbs while cutting except in my post workout meal. I couldn't even tell you what regular potatoes taste like as I don't even eat those or white rice while bulking. Straight crap IMO. Great post D! Good info there bro.
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thanks bro.. anytime for you! =)

the thing with rice, complex carb or not, i have found that it just doesn't work properly when cutting... ive not only experimented personally but tried it with others as well... its just something that needs to be avoided IMO... there are much better alternatives...
 
oxymoron said:
i'm cutting and dylan recommended i back out my brown rice which i thought would be shitty but it actually hasn't been so bad. i'm workin at removing as many carbs as possibly and just incorporate a variety of veggies (mainly broccoli, cauliflower, spinach) which is going to have "some" carbs. also i'm taking in a good 15 - 30g carbs in shakes. i'd say at the end of the day i'm averaging about 50g/day. i've thought about picking up some ketosis strips just to check things out b/c i'm probably getting some light ketogenic action. now with that said, i'm curious if i should be doing a light carb day say sunday with some brown rice, sweet potatoes and beans. or maybe this is my subconscious trying to cheat a little... dylan thoughts?
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in theory, everyone will say you "need" a cheat day or its "okay" In DylanGemelli theory, its not okay... =) If you are a person that can deal with it and not explode after a while and just go nuts and eat everything in sight, then you should not cheat... if you absolutely need it, then its fine... I think you should get to where you want to be first before you start having cheat days... after you get there, then have one once in a while... it will only slow down your progress, dependent on your body... some people can bounce back quickly, but others, it will set them back quite a bit... know your body and be smart with it...
 
sbamb111 said:
what other carb could be sub'd out instead of potato's and rice? More oats?
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just spread it out throughout the day... don't be caught up in replacement... i get my carbs in small amounts throughout the day... add more veggies and fruits... oatmeal is good... buy the sugarless packets... they are only 100 calories, no sugar and get you some carb... sometimes a good cereal, special k for example will get you some as well...
 
Hey my only question is what about keto diets? You must eat lots of fat more than half your cals but I'm still cutting fat like crazy and I know other people succeed on a high fat keto cut as well.
 
MikeHR said:
Hey my only question is what about keto diets? You must eat lots of fat more than half your cals but I'm still cutting fat like crazy and I know other people succeed on a high fat keto cut as well.
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Works different. You consuming almost no carbs forcing your body to use fats as fuels which is triggered by the fats you do consume. If you're going to cut and still consume carbs a minumal amount of fat is to be consumed(some small amounts should be with several meals except the one after workout).- if I'm right....still trying to get this down.
 
Wow. I'm stunned. I'm not being sarcastic, dylangemelli. You look awesome and sound like you know your stuff and I'm always looking for new info. but if you shouldn't eat carbs except post-w/out and no rice, potatoes, for me that leaves beans and oats. I'm not in favor of oats because of the sweetening factor that goes with it. I don't like savory oats. So it seems like you mean a high protein, low fat diet. Fair enough but where is the energy coming from for w/outs? Load up on carbs post? But what carbs? And you say no carb loading, so I'm confused. I know BBers that do this right before a contest and they eat protein only, nothing else. But that's just the last few days or week. I hope you will respond.
 
You don't necessarily "need" carbs before a workout. Not only do I not eat carbs preworkout, but I don't consume anything but BCAAs. I train fasted every workout and have for a long time. Intermittent fasting is very popular for a reason. I feel no difference with or without a meal before a workout. Actually I have a much more productive workout in a fasted state. If consuming carbs preworkout is what you want to do then that's great, but its certainly not "needed"
 
RickRock13 said:
You don't necessarily "need" carbs before a workout. Not only do I not eat carbs preworkout, but I don't consume anything but BCAAs. I train fasted every workout and have for a long time. Intermittent fasting is very popular for a reason. I feel no difference with or without a meal before a workout. Actually I have a much more productive workout in a fasted state. If consuming carbs preworkout is what you want to do then that's great, but its certainly not "needed"
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So do you get your fuel mostly from fat you burn? I don't think I gave that a try long enough. Seems to take a looonnng time. I work out in a fasted state, too but I eat some carbs rest of the day. Small amount spread out but I still get them. That's fueling my workout. I don't get much from BCAAs. I've tried IF and I bonk with just BCAAs. I see other posters say to consume a small amount of fat w/other meals, so yea, that's good but I prefer to get my fat from my protein. It occurs naturally and to eat protein stripped of it, i.e., egg whites, chicken w/no skin, etc. and THEN put fat back in, i.e., EFAs, olive/coconut oil, etc. doesn't seem logical. I get the quality of these fats may supercede saturated fats but I'm not sure. I guess I just don't see how eating saturated fat would not be good on a cutting diet, if you're doing keto or very low carb. I guess what dylanmegelli meant was more avocados and nuts/seeds for the fat content? And I guess maybe quinoa and such for carbs? Someone said cous cous. I guess I just didn't do so well on keto and low carb when it came to working out. I sure loved the flat stomach though. THAT's why I wanted it to work so much.
 
I am currently on a cutting regament and consume all my carbs for the day in my 1st. and 2nd. meal with no carbs after 12:00 noon. I have a BMR of 1995 and am currently comsuming approx. 1300 to 1400 cal per day. Living on Talopia and Chicken breasts. I'm droping wt. like crazy over past 3 weeks. I'm sure my sticking point is right around the corner. What are y'als thoughts on no carbs after 12 noon? Great post...
 
Good tips here, thanks all. I didn't know about salmon, as I eat a lot of it. Guess I'll need to stop. I'm currently on a cutter, and am basically adhering to a paleo-ish diet, where I really only get all my carbs from vegetables. Post workout, I do ad some dextrose to my shake. I've always done this, and have heard arguments for and against it. In the mornings, I run fasted straight out of bed, then workout after work in the evenings. I did this same setup last year around this same time, and got majorly shredded. This year, I'm 4 weeks in, and feeling a bit lethargic during workouts. Can anyone comment on carb timing? I'd really like to know more about when I should be eating the carbs I do eat. Thanks all.
 
What about fat free plain yogurt? Is that bad during cutting. I saw some yesterday at the store and scooped it up because I thought I remembered reading that its a good cutting food. In one cup there is 22g protein and 7 carbs.
 
more steel said:
What about fat free plain yogurt? Is that bad during cutting. I saw some yesterday at the store and scooped it up because I thought I remembered reading that its a good cutting food. In one cup there is 22g protein and 7 carbs.
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Don't get me wrong yogurt is the bomb, especially with all the protein and if you scoop with a few servings of protein powder, damn you got a good serving. But you would want to avoid dairy products if your trying to cut..it won't help the process
 
the biggest mistakes guys make is bread. bread is a killer.. i dont care if its whole grain, its an absolute killer if you are cutting. fruit juice drinks too.. and if you are gonna eat yogurt please be smart and don't buy the ones that have sugary fruit at the bottom lol. those are actually the worst thing you could eat.
 
Rayca said:
Wow. I'm stunned. I'm not being sarcastic, dylangemelli. You look awesome and sound like you know your stuff and I'm always looking for new info. but if you shouldn't eat carbs except post-w/out and no rice, potatoes, for me that leaves beans and oats. I'm not in favor of oats because of the sweetening factor that goes with it. I don't like savory oats. So it seems like you mean a high protein, low fat diet. Fair enough but where is the energy coming from for w/outs? Load up on carbs post? But what carbs? And you say no carb loading, so I'm confused. I know BBers that do this right before a contest and they eat protein only, nothing else. But that's just the last few days or week. I hope you will respond.
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I think you will be surprised by the amount of energy you have when you avoid sugars and carbs. sometimes when you get a sugar high and fluctuate insulin levels you end up feeling beat down and tired. give it a shot. you will feel more energetic and healthier.
 
Snarling Force said:
Good tips here, thanks all. I didn't know about salmon, as I eat a lot of it. Guess I'll need to stop. I'm currently on a cutter, and am basically adhering to a paleo-ish diet, where I really only get all my carbs from vegetables. Post workout, I do ad some dextrose to my shake. I've always done this, and have heard arguments for and against it. In the mornings, I run fasted straight out of bed, then workout after work in the evenings. I did this same setup last year around this same time, and got majorly shredded. This year, I'm 4 weeks in, and feeling a bit lethargic during workouts. Can anyone comment on carb timing? I'd really like to know more about when I should be eating the carbs I do eat. Thanks all.
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I personally have my carbs only after i get home from the gym, i train mornings while fasted on BCAA. Past 12:30pm my only carbs come from my whey shakes, and I guess a teeny bit from my broccoli and spinach
 
Youngncurious said:
Don't get me wrong yogurt is the bomb, especially with all the protein and if you scoop with a few servings of protein powder, damn you got a good serving. But you would want to avoid dairy products if your trying to cut..it won't help the process
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yes, dairy wants to be kept at a bare minimum when cutting... plain greek yogurt is the only dairy i go near on a cut...
 
more steel said:
What about fat free plain yogurt? Is that bad during cutting. I saw some yesterday at the store and scooped it up because I thought I remembered reading that its a good cutting food. In one cup there is 22g protein and 7 carbs.
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you want greek yogurt as opposed to regular yogurt... much better macro breakdown... you only want to eat plain though...
 
stevesmi said:
the biggest mistakes guys make is bread. bread is a killer.. i dont care if its whole grain, its an absolute killer if you are cutting. fruit juice drinks too.. and if you are gonna eat yogurt please be smart and don't buy the ones that have sugary fruit at the bottom lol. those are actually the worst thing you could eat.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ i couldn't agree more!
 
Quick Question, I work Shift work so I'm searching for some help since I flip-flop days nights and how I should place my meals.

My question here is: upon waking in morning at 3am, I drink a protein shake with 1/2 cup raw oats around 4:30ish, need energy starting early to work outside, Then I have Chicken-BrRice-Vegg for breakfast at around 8am. About the oats, does it make a difference as far as breakdown whether I cook them or not? I just dump them in the shake and go.....
 
DurdenEgo said:
Quick Question, I work Shift work so I'm searching for some help since I flip-flop days nights and how I should place my meals.

My question here is: upon waking in morning at 3am, I drink a protein shake with 1/2 cup raw oats around 4:30ish, need energy starting early to work outside, Then I have Chicken-BrRice-Vegg for breakfast at around 8am. About the oats, does it make a difference as far as breakdown whether I cook them or not? I just dump them in the shake and go.....
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I work shift too... 3/2/2 split 12hr nights and days. I'd like to know of if it even matters.
 
So much broscience I dont get it... Lyle Mcdonald , Alan Aragon, Layne Norton , Martin Berkhan , all nutrition experts and have majored in this type of field, calories in vs calories out , eat what makes YOU feel good for some people its high carbs mod protein and low fat others might be high fat med prot low carbs, just do what works for you and realise that once you have the right amount of proteins and fats and are eating ur daily serving of fruits and vegetables ur good to go. I think some of you are making this way to hard . And no blending the oats doesnt make any difference why would it ? Measure out ur half up oats before you grind it and then use that same amount lol.... Not like blending it adds protein and reduces carbs come on now...
 
sebaco2011 said:
So much broscience I dont get it... Lyle Mcdonald , Alan Aragon, Layne Norton , Martin Berkhan , all nutrition experts and have majored in this type of field, calories in vs calories out , eat what makes YOU feel good for some people its high carbs mod protein and low fat others might be high fat med prot low carbs, just do what works for you and realise that once you have the right amount of proteins and fats and are eating ur daily serving of fruits and vegetables ur good to go. I think some of you are making this way to hard . And no blending the oats doesnt make any difference why would it ? Measure out ur half up oats before you grind it and then use that same amount lol.... Not like blending it adds protein and reduces carbs come on now...
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lmao!!! broscience... really? okay smart guy, you again... do me a favor... lets see all your credentials... your certifications, your studies, your degrees, your client feedback, and most importantly your pictures that show just how good your diet is... because me, i've been doing this for a fucking decade... i have a masters degree... im nasm certified in personal training and nutrition... i have the clients with results to back it up... i have so many people on here i help on a daily basis to cut and get gains they have never come close to achieving... my results show i have a pretty good idea of what the fuck im doing... so you can take your redundant broscience comment, turn that shit sideways and well im sure you can figure out the rest... fuck, your so ridiculous... your google knowledge is amazing! man! its so ridiculous! everyone already let you have it once in another thread yet you come back for more! LOLLLL damn man! i mean do you listen to yourself? you sound like a parent from the 80's... "now you kids listen up, you eat your fruits and vegetables, ya hear!" you can't eat "whatever makes you feel good" and expect to cut... your so off base its ridiculous... this thread is about cutting BROOOO, not about diets overall but how to cut...

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sebaco2011 said:
So much broscience I dont get it... Lyle Mcdonald , Alan Aragon, Layne Norton , Martin Berkhan , all nutrition experts and have majored in this type of field, calories in vs calories out , eat what makes YOU feel good for some people its high carbs mod protein and low fat others might be high fat med prot low carbs, just do what works for you and realise that once you have the right amount of proteins and fats and are eating ur daily serving of fruits and vegetables ur good to go. I think some of you are making this way to hard . And no blending the oats doesnt make any difference why would it ? Measure out ur half up oats before you grind it and then use that same amount lol.... Not like blending it adds protein and reduces carbs come on now...
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Unfortunately the scientists are still around from the old days, but iifym and the old school "eat every 2hrs" are like atheists and Christians arguing. Only one has scientific reasearch to back it up the other is "it works for me so therefore it's right" I wouldn't worry tho bro no point arguing about it, i myself have seen better improvements with less effort due to following iifym so as long as we're personally following something that works and someone else wants to work twice as hard for the same results, then let them
 
Proppar said:
Unfortunately the scientists are still around from the old days, but iifym and the old school "eat every 2hrs" are like atheists and Christians arguing. Only one has scientific reasearch to back it up the other is "it works for me so therefore it's right" I wouldn't worry tho bro no point arguing about it, i myself have seen better improvements with less effort due to following iifym so as long as we're personally following something that works and someone else wants to work twice as hard for the same results, then let them
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I agree some people just dont listen and cant ever agree to learn something new , btw you want some credetials and feedback and such Dylan here you go The Dirt on Clean Eating | Wannabebig Alas brought to you buy Alan Aragon you will love this one also Why Nutritional Dogma Dies Hard | Alan Aragon's Blog -[FONT=Verdana,sans-serif][FONT=Arial,sans-serif]Alan Aragon has over 18 years of success in the fitness field. He earned his Bachelor and Master of Science in Nutrition with top honors. Alan is a continuing education provider for the Commission on Dietetic Registration, National Academy of Sports Medicine, American Council on Exercise, and National Strength & Conditioning Association. Alan recently lectured to clinicians at the FDA and the annual conference of the Los Angeles Dietetic Association. He maintains a private practice designing programs for recreational, Olympic, and professional [FONT=Arial,sans-serif]athleteshttp://www.alanaragon.com/testimonials.html[FONT=Verdana,sans-serif][FONT=Arial,sans-serif], [/FONT][FONT=Arial,sans-serif]including the Los Angeles Lakers, Los Angeles Kings, and Anaheim Mighty Ducks. Alan is a contributing editor to Men's Health magazine.[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Verdana,sans-serif] [/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]
 
But im sure you're better then Mr Aragon right ? Oh how about Layne Norton I dont think I need to explain who he is but just in case Layne Norton on If It Fits Your Macros IIFYM Part One - YouTube ...
Layne Norton Bio:

  • BS in Biochemistry from Eckerd College with honors (>3.5 GPA) in 2004
  • Ph.D. candidate in Nutritional Science, specializing in skeletal muscle protein metabolism, at the University of Illinois
  • Member of SciVation's scientific advisory board
  • IFPA & NGA Pro Natural Bodybuilder
 
lollll you can post all you want but your just going to be ignored from here on out because you are a complete waste... lets see your pics since you know so much and lets hear some feedback form people you've helped... lets start there....
 
TheRippedReverend said:
How much sodium/sugar should you take in daily on a 8% bf level?
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to maintain that body fat your going to want to keep both low... i try to keep my sugar around 30-40 grams a day...

sodium is easy for me because i don't like it anyway but it needs to be kept low when trying to maintain that low of body fat... of course some is necessary but keep it in moderation...
 
Now please if you have SCIENTIFIC PROOF and Research that these 2 are wrong please provide me with YOUR resources , not some photos or bs , I want some hard scientific evidence that shows PROOF . People bashed me ? Please inform me of all the bashing or whatever you say , I see one or two people saying what does or doesn't work for them which is what this is mostly about , not everyone is the same last I checked right ? To be so utterly ignorant and say you can ony eat xxx and dont eat yyy is pretty ridiculous or to train a certain way that isn't you way just isn't as good , everyone is different some people train 5 days a week some train 3 days a week , all it is is finding out what works for YOU .
 
How did I know you would come with a smart remark like that honesty? I really do think you're made because science and proven research proves you wrong yet you still speak dogma , its obvious , next time lets see a more intellectual response perhaps ? You want a picture one sec.
 
sebaco2011 said:
How did I know you would come with a smart remark like that honesty? I really do think you're made because science and proven research proves you wrong yet you still speak dogma , its obvious , next time lets see a more intellectual response perhaps ? You want a picture one sec.
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LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

ask around all the people that i've helped just on here with their diets and how successful they've been... that's just people on here, not to mention all the clients i've had for a fucking decade... why won't you just fucking piss off man... noone gives a shit about anything you are saying!
 
i know this, if someone called me out about posting a pic i would post that shit in seconds, not disappear....

what exactly are YOUR credentials? where is all of the feedback from YOUR CLIENTS? how long have you been a nutritionist? or is it that you know how to use google and read??

My people get results... this thread is about foods to avoid when cutting... its not about what every average joe's diet should be... this is to show how to cut and be in competitive body type, to have a body fat under 10%...

For every stupid ass article that is posted, there's another stupid ass article that can contradict it... My results show, they are proven on myself and so many others... you already had a bunch of people tell you this before... if you want, take a poll on here and see who everyone is going to listen to, me or you... go ahead, see the results... your just one of those people that likes to try to contradict things when you see someone else doing well, and that's fine, but your making yourself look bad... so you should just stop...

im not doubting the credentials of the people you have spoken of but you can't argue with results and mine are proven on so many so you can say and think and google whatever you want, but you are not going to change results....
 
Show me some of the articles that contradicts them then please, you act so intelligent seriously I love your posts, I already talked about credentials , I have NONE , I dont aspire to be a trainer just yet . Feedback from people I helped meh iv helped maybe 6 people total in the gym LOL. Im not a personal trainer or any sort of trainer, I never claimed I was did I ? I'm willing to bet the people who I have learned from HAVE trained more people then you have . Here are some pics, starting out first pic in clothes is about Feb of 2011 5'10 235-245 in that pic, other pics are me getting my transformation started and its about April 2011 at 5'10 230 pounds, the last pic is the final pic I got and that I used for my transformation and submitted it to a supplement company in hopes of becoming a sponsor, August 25th 2011,5'10 and 185 pounds on empty stomach and 190 at the end of the day, the super supps that I used were Sust ( 540 a week) , and Anavar ( 50 mg a day ) http://s1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb401/sebaco2011/
 
Google ? By Google do you mean scientific research and evidence based solely on bodybuilding , and sports nutrition/ training ? Not only research but also PROVEN in any and all sorts of ways from one of the LEADING experts in Nutrition to World Class Bodybuilders, Then yes I use google, so im going to assume you use muscle and fitness magazines and supplement articles heh.
 
sebaco2011 said:
Google ? By Google do you mean scientific research and evidence based solely on bodybuilding , and sports nutrition/ training ? Not only research but also PROVEN in any and all sorts of ways from one of the LEADING experts in Nutrition to World Class Bodybuilders, Then yes I use google, so im going to assume you use muscle and fitness magazines and supplement articles heh.
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no i actually went to college, earned a masters degree, got certified from the best organization you can get certified in... i modeled for six years, ive been training people for 8, ive been doing diet planning for 5... so your right, i don't know shit... i haven't helped anyone, my personal results dont show and neither does all the other people that claim i've helped them... your the man here, you know everything, you have the diet down and im completely wrong... muscle magazines?? lolllllllllllllllllllllllllll your ridiculous as well as your so called knowledge... I do real life experiences with real life people who show real life results... if you don't like it or agree with it, well i really don't give a fuck... do you know how many people i help here on a daily basis? and that achieve unbelievable results?? do you have any idea how many over the years? you have no fucking clue, none... you are just some dude, that read some shit online that some people published and thinks they know everything... i put in my time, i grinded all this out over all these years and you want to tell me how its done... LOLLLL i dont think so man... you openly admit you have zero credentials, NONE, yet you want to tell someone who has the credentials i do how its done... get fucking real man... seriously... its great that you were able to transform yourself, i applaud that, i love that when people are able to do that for themselves but that in no way gives you any sort of credential to tell people how to do shit... you have no background in this whatsoever... so you can post all you want but you have no credentials to back it up...
 
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I dont need credentials to post about my thoughts / feelings/opinions do I ??? Im just simply here to give advice that is REAL and TRUE , and has been PROVEN like I said by both science , studies, research . I posted up pics , links to the most CREDENTIAL people in this work even more so then YOU but your better then them right ???? So iv done everything you've asked im now waiting for you to prove what im saying wrong , please , once again I admire your intelligent response at least you aren't acting a bit childish esp as a moderator, wouldn't that be a good example to set. Me transforming my body gives me no right to give feedback and thoughts / feelings about what worked for me as well as whats worked for THOUSANDS of others and has been PROVEN . You have no valid arguement you're saying the same nonsense over and over you can't seem to give an intellegent response even as a moderator come on now .
 
sebaco2011 said:
I dont need credentials to post about my thoughts / feelings/opinions do I ??? Im just simply here to give advice that is REAL and TRUE , and has been PROVEN like I said by both science , studies, research . I posted up pics , links to the most CREDENTIAL people in this work even more so then YOU but your better then them right ???? So iv done everything you've asked im now waiting for you to prove what im saying wrong , please , once again I admire your intelligent response at least you aren't acting a bit childish esp as a moderator, wouldn't that be a good example to set. Me transforming my body gives me no right to give feedback and thoughts / feelings about what worked for me as well as whats worked for THOUSANDS of others and has been PROVEN . You have no valid arguement you're saying the same nonsense over and over you can't seem to give an intellegent response even as a moderator come on now .
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first of all, your the one that came into threads calling my advice "broscience"... call my professors, and call nasm and everywhere else and tell them their teaching bro science and call and pm ALL the people I have helped transform and tell them that and they will all tell you to piss off... YOU HAVE NO CREDENTIALS, AT ALL... YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS GIVING ADVICE... we all have opinions and good stories and you can share whatever you want...

I gave you all my credentials which is clear you have nowhere near... Why don't you find me anyone that I have advised that what I told them did not work for them... Go ahead, ask around, post a poll, whatever you like... i never said that the "scientists" you speak of don't know anything, but there is no fucking way your going to find anyone that has not gotten results from what i have offered... you think there is only one way to do things? that everyones bodies respond the same? LOLLL You are out of your league man... You got some sense and took control and got down to the weight you are supposed to be at so now you know something? what about before that? You have no business coming into threads of people that have been doing this and our truly helping people and talking shit the way you have done... you have another method or a different idea, fine, share it but contradicting soneone with PROVEN results is ignorant... You think I was made a moderator because I don't know what the fuck Im talking about? If you know so much then why aren't you the mod or the trainer or the nutritionist... Like I said, ask around, see who everyone is going to listen to... You can bring up all the "science" you want, I dont give a shit... I care about results... I care about what works and if you can't see what I do works then you are blind.... If you can't read what everyone writes all over the forum about how much I help them, then you aren't looking at all... So like I said, run your mouth all you want, I don't care... Your insignificant on this board and you have no background whatsoever to say the shit you are saying... Like I said, good work on your transformation... You need to just be concerned with maintaining that and staying healthy... I do this for a living and did not get to where I am because I don't know what I am doing...
 
i avoid no foods when dieting if it fits my macronutrient needs then il eat whatever. calories in calories out..its not much more complicated than that.
 
I have had Better results using IIfYM . Carbs are more anabolic than protein and so long as I keep em under 350 a day I can cut bulk or whatever I just adjust my other macros. Calories In vs calories out at the end of the day is what determine whether you gain or lose weight. The way you break down your macros, micronutrients and vitamins within those calories is what determines your body composition.. That along with how hard you train, type of training and least important in my opinion is sleep out of those 3. You can get even more technical and say fast for 24 hours do some heavy training and then power back 400 grams of carbs at once and you will probably over time notice you are developing better insulin sensitivity and wake up leaner every day. I think what's more important when cutting in my opinion is keeping protein high, carbs at an optimal level for the individual so he cAn still perform and not feel like shit , and making sure fats come 80-90% from efa's such as fish oil, olive oil, natty PB hemp seeds flax seeds borage oil ...etc..train like a beast when you are cutting , sprints , so forth to get the heart rate up to max for short duration intervals..for most this will be far less catabolic than hours of cardio... For most I say .. Every individual should tweak their plan to best suit them selves. There is no one size fits all.. Milk for example is a Nono for me when cutting anything more than a cup or 2 and the bloat begins. Sodium and fructose should be kept under watch as well . Nothing worse than feeling bloated in my opinion


Ride it like you stole it!!
 
Holy fuck I rambled off there while riding the bike haha

I powered back a 2000 calorie burrito last night after some serious training days almost 2 pounds of beef rice and beans and I woke up lean as fuck this morning. So the odd bad meal is fine and a nice treat on occasion to keep yourself sane happy and able to socialize.. It's hard to meet chicks and shit and always have to turn down a slice of pizza or icecream at every offering


Ride it like you stole it!!
 
dylangemelli said:
to maintain that body fat your going to want to keep both low... i try to keep my sugar around 30-40 grams a day...

sodium is easy for me because i don't like it anyway but it needs to be kept low when trying to maintain that low of body fat... of course some is necessary but keep it in moderation...
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Wow didnt think it was that low thought maybe 60-80 would work

Any feed on sodium tho? Like 1500mg or?
 
Rustilldown said:
Holy fuck I rambled off there while riding the bike haha

I powered back a 2000 calorie burrito last night after some serious training days almost 2 pounds of beef rice and beans and I woke up lean as fuck this morning. So the odd bad meal is fine and a nice treat on occasion to keep yourself sane happy and able to socialize.. It's hard to meet chicks and shit and always have to turn down a slice of pizza or icecream at every offering


Ride it like you stole it!!
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thats great man and its okay to cheat now and then but when you cheat on something like that, you won't notice the negative effects the next day, it would be a few days later when you start to notice...
 
SRTank said:
i avoid no foods when dieting if it fits my macronutrient needs then il eat whatever. calories in calories out..its not much more complicated than that.
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really... so if you have say 10 candy bars in a day that are 250 calories a piece you are sitting at 2500 calories a day... you think that calories in vs. out applies to that if you burn 2600 calories a day even though basically its all from fat? that's not how it works... the fat will still be stored... you can cheat sometimes and eat satisfying shit but you can't just eat whatever whenever and expect to cut...
 
There are lots of ideas on the correct way to cut and lose fat, and as long as it works for you they are all good. Having a family and kids can make it hard to eat clean every day. My wife and kids like things to eat that aren't the best sometimes, and i will eat with them. I think the key is moderation, knowing your body, and knowing your limits. I eat super clean about 60% of the week, and the other remaining time I compromise. I've had no problem staying at or around 6% bodyfat using this method.
 
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