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Thinking outside the box, I was pondering this (cycling 1-AD and Andro spray) my libido is affected a little, but I am married so hard to say 
I was thinking it all relates to how your brain transmits or receives and the one thing in common here is Test...What if your body reacts to elavated Test differently at first and then as you do more cycles it levels out.
No idea, just a thought...but I do think Brain transmition is the key.
I was thinking it all relates to how your brain transmits or receives and the one thing in common here is Test...What if your body reacts to elavated Test differently at first and then as you do more cycles it levels out.No idea, just a thought...but I do think Brain transmition is the key.
blackdream71
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hey BILL these 1-TEST ETHERGELS are working really great for me, I started my cycle 4 weeks ago, week 1 i weighed 233, week 4 i now weigh 249, i'm taking 9 softgels per day, pretty good gains, i've made better gains on this stuff than on some gear cycles i have done,LOL, i am noticing limp dick these past couple weeks though, i just can't get a rise without the trusty VIAGRA......
latinus_spicticus
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Honestly, what is the advantage of using ethergels vs. Syntrax's sauce? Ethergels contain 25mg of 1-test ether and Sauce contains the exact same ingredient at 75mg per cap. I know that the 1-test ether in the 'gels' are suspended in oil, but does that make up for three times less dosage compared to Sauce? They are both the same price per cap, so I don't see why anyone would want to use ethergels vs. sauce. If fat is required to process the PH, then you could swallow some flax or sunflower oil with your Sauce caps and get the same effect as the ethergels, right?
Maybe Syntrax is using fake 1-test and I am totally off base here, but Ethergels seem like a rip-off compared to Sauce. They are the same exact thing (except in a gelcap w/a small amt of fat) and cost three times as much on a mg per mg basis. What am I missing here? I am not trying to flame or discount molecular nutrition, but something is very odd about people buying Ethergels instead of form of 1-test ether that is 3x as cheap (Sauce).
Lastly, if the adverse mood/lethargy sides are due to low estrogen, do you think a estrogen site competitor like clomid would alleviate these sides?
Maybe Syntrax is using fake 1-test and I am totally off base here, but Ethergels seem like a rip-off compared to Sauce. They are the same exact thing (except in a gelcap w/a small amt of fat) and cost three times as much on a mg per mg basis. What am I missing here? I am not trying to flame or discount molecular nutrition, but something is very odd about people buying Ethergels instead of form of 1-test ether that is 3x as cheap (Sauce).
Lastly, if the adverse mood/lethargy sides are due to low estrogen, do you think a estrogen site competitor like clomid would alleviate these sides?
latinus_spicticus said:
I'd go into a big long thing explaining about how much better my design is, and how the "take with flax oil" is rediculous, but if you look at my site you will see this pretty well addressed in the Q & A.
Simply put, nobody is gaining 15 lbs in 4 weeks on Sauce or any of the other powdered 1-test caps.
And Blackdream took only 225mg mind you, and has used 1-Test products before.
- Bill
blackdream71 said:
That is great to hear Blackdream (well the gains, not the limpy). I have been following your feedback, and think it’s awesome. I posted it on my site for others to read actually. I hope your pants size went up because of your legs and not your waist BTW.
The feedback overall has been really impressive. The other companies can suggest the design offers little value, but results like yours speak for themselves.
As for the limpy, if the problem is actually estrogen as some people suggest, 4-AD or Boldione might correct it. I think it is the less androgenic nature of 1-Test myself, and would recommend 3-Alpha. I'd like to hear feedback if you try either one of these approaches.
- Bill
w_llewellyn said:
Sorry, 16. (I'm on painkillers, I have an excuse).
- Bill
latinus_spicticus
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NO need to go into a 'big long thing' to address the issue, weyeleyleeeing.
After reading the "dissolved in oil equates to magic WRT 1-test THP", one can easily deduce that the powdered hormones (Sauce, etc) can be broken apart and dissolved into oil and then ingested. Or did you have a more feasible argument for your supplement than "it has to be dissolved completely, not just taken with fat to get into the 'lymph' system"?
Methinks the ethergel "science" is about as sound as alchemy. I guarantee you that the 15lbs in 4 weeks on ethergel gains are either coincidental or 1 in a million (or even possibly falsified).
1AD still kicks the ass of all of the 1-test orals out there, anyway, considering the bioavailability of 1-test is piss poor when taken orally. Unless it is dissolved in oil and allowed to enter the lymphatic system (sarcasm). Isn't that the same 'technology' that was behind Andriol? What, did the bioavailability increase from 5 percent to 8 percent when using a dissolved-in-fat delivery system? Andriol was a bust, we shall see with the ethergels. I am willing to bet that they won't knock 1AD or Mag10 off of the shelves-- not by a longshot.
BTW, how does one end a cycle after a 8 week course of 1-test that results in near-total HTPA shutdown? You don't like clomid or nolvadex or anastrazole, you only seem to advocate HCG (which necessitates the use of an anti-e such as nolva/clomid/anastrazole, btw) which is a scheduled drug. You still have not spewed a solid answer. I guess spewing a solid would be oxymoronic.
After reading the "dissolved in oil equates to magic WRT 1-test THP", one can easily deduce that the powdered hormones (Sauce, etc) can be broken apart and dissolved into oil and then ingested. Or did you have a more feasible argument for your supplement than "it has to be dissolved completely, not just taken with fat to get into the 'lymph' system"?
Methinks the ethergel "science" is about as sound as alchemy. I guarantee you that the 15lbs in 4 weeks on ethergel gains are either coincidental or 1 in a million (or even possibly falsified).
1AD still kicks the ass of all of the 1-test orals out there, anyway, considering the bioavailability of 1-test is piss poor when taken orally. Unless it is dissolved in oil and allowed to enter the lymphatic system (sarcasm). Isn't that the same 'technology' that was behind Andriol? What, did the bioavailability increase from 5 percent to 8 percent when using a dissolved-in-fat delivery system? Andriol was a bust, we shall see with the ethergels. I am willing to bet that they won't knock 1AD or Mag10 off of the shelves-- not by a longshot.
BTW, how does one end a cycle after a 8 week course of 1-test that results in near-total HTPA shutdown? You don't like clomid or nolvadex or anastrazole, you only seem to advocate HCG (which necessitates the use of an anti-e such as nolva/clomid/anastrazole, btw) which is a scheduled drug. You still have not spewed a solid answer. I guess spewing a solid would be oxymoronic.
latinus_spicticus said:
Certainly.
First your belief that the powdered cap will burst open and the steroid will separate out and meet perfectly with fat in your stomach to be absorbed by the lymph system is tremendously unrealistic to say the least. Look at the cited references. There were significant differences in the lymph absorption when different oils were used as vehicles, and this is when administered directly to the small intestine. Sesame oil was tremendously better than oelic acid (olive oil is 80% OA) for example. Take with food is just laughable.
Also, having the steroid dissolved in oil seems to offer a protective effect against metabolism. This was shown in a study where an ether-modified steroid was dissolved in sesame oil and incubated with fresh bile. After 1 hour about 94% of the hormone was unchanged in sesame oil. This was far better than the 54%when dissolved in oleic acid. Obviously you do not have this benefit when the steroid spends a large amount of time floating freely around your innards, before it meets with fat, now do you?
The relatively thick softgel also takes a significantly longer time to break open than a regular gelatin capsule. Since lymphatic absorption takes place in the upper small intestine, any time not exposed to the stomach the better.
I do not operate like that, and take personal offense to this suggestion. Look around the boards, Blackdream is not the only extremely satisfied customer.
And on what to you base that clearly sound and reliable judgment? Have you used my product? I hate it when people talk out of their ass. Plus, the oral bioavailability of 1-AD is the same, if not slightly lower than that of 1-Test. You are an idiot LS.
Yes, and Andriol I will remind you is an effective oral testosterone replacement, sold in many countries. No drug company to my knowledge has ever sold powdered testosterone capsules. In the worst case study, with women, Andriol doubled the oral bioavailability of free T. I don’t know if it was taken with meals, which would greatly improve it. Women also get much better oral bioavailability from free testosterone than men do anyway, so it will be significantly more than doubled with males. Andriol was show repeatedly to be an effective T replacement in men, while T is known to be utterly useless. In fact, the practice of oral dosing with testosterone was pretty much excluded in the late 1930’s. How come they just didn’t increase the cap dose as you suggest solves things? Andriol was not sold until the 80’s, and the whole time before that scientists were searching for an oral testosterone replacement. That is the technology you are holding on to with the powder-filled caps.
I’m betting against you.
I suggest both HCG and an antiestrogen dipship. This point of view in several posts of mine, in my book, and in an article in next month’s Mind and Muscle (formerly BigMotherF*cker). Try reading before you speak.
And HCG is not a scheduled drug you moron. It is no different that the three other drugs in your post.
- Bill
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latinus_spicticus said:
And early feedback on "homemade ethergels" using raw 1-test THP and sesame oil wasn't that impressive. Perhaps it is just too exposed like that compared to the softgel. I don't know, and was a little surprised myself. Maybe if more tried it some of the feedback would be better. And this was with raw powder. With the caps you have to deal with a speck of hormone and a pile of fillers. Have fun.
