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RESEARCHSARMSUGFREAKeudomestic
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Epi (havoc) + Osta SARMS log

weksauce

New member
Starting my 1st AAS cycle, epistane Havoc, in 2 days.

30mg for 30 days

PCT
nolva 20/20/10/10
Osta Sarms 25/25/25/25

The goal is to gain 10 lbs muscle, and keep as much as possible while experiencing as few side effects as possible.

Will be taking the 10mg caps 8hrs apart
Just set an alarm to go off every day, 3x / day.
(the point is to keep blood level stable, none of this 1 in the morning, 2 before workout $hit, people doing that dont understand how drugs work...)

6'2" 171 lb male, <15% bf (never measured properly, i've always had a six-pack, skinny-strong / hard-gainer body)

Lifting
last summer I ate and lifted heavy, got my weight to 181 lb, benching 265 lb.
this cycle will be focusing on deadlifts, pullups, arnold presses, and squats, not focusing on number of pounds, but just get a good single set to failure - meaning heavy weights, to trigger as much lean muscle mass growth as possible.

I lift 2 exercises x 1 set x 8 rep (to failure), 2x / d, 5d / wk
(this means 4 exercises / day)

Diet:
Cycloketogenic diet for last 3.5 yrs. I've been between 168 and 181 lb, depending on how much I eat and how heavy I lift.

1 wk ago, i added 1 steak/porkchop + 3-5 eggs, morning and night. This is an additional 1000+ calories of high-quality protein and fat on top of my maintenance diet. I expect to gain .5-1 lb over this week, and kickstart metabolism.

For 1 wk, I've also upped my water to 1+ gallon per day to establish the habit, because drinking extra water is very important for helping your liver process methylated, liver-straining drugs like epi.

I have 100 caps of 1g taurine. Taking 2-3g / day to prevent back pumps.

Nolvadex for PCT.

Any veterans' ideas welcome, as this is my first cycle. I think I have everything lined up based on my research, and with my food, gaining 10+ lbs muscle should be a breeze. The difficult part of the cycle is how much gain can I keep post-cycle, and can I do this without experiencing negative side effects.
 
I'd switch up your pct dont use nolvadex. Do a little more research on your pct. So you will be more likely to keep the gains you put on.
 
will be following. let us know how you feel the osta worked in pct
 
Day 3: Retaining more water in muscles, and feeling good. Eating like a horse. Will weigh today.

I'd up the dose to 45 after a few weeks and run it 5-6 weeks for best results, ideally 6. Throw a test booster and forma in your pct. Nolva isn't necessary IMO
 
Good to see some people following!

I thought that noone was following because I'm a newb to the forum.

I kept a journal offline, which I'll update:

Day 4: weighed 175
I weighed on 2 scales at 172 before the cycle, so all weighings are averages on 2 scales, at roughly the same time of day, with roughly the same water/meals in my body.

Day 5 175 lb, squats!

Day 6
Aching pumps from washing dishes, or playing DJ Diddles.

sex 4 times in ~12 hrs (usual), very little fluid 4th time (unusual)
Based on bloodwork of other epi users, shutdown of testosterone is extreme, decimating natural production within 3-4 days.
Based on experiences written in other epi logs, drive is fine for first 2-3 weeks, then some users experience drive shutdown in last week or two.

Day 8: Weighed 176 lbs, I can see how 13-17 lbs in 30 days is possible when epi is fed properly. To be fair, most of this gain is water and fat, as I'm adding carbs on non-Saturdays for the first time in 3.5 years. I've introduced English Muffins smothered in butter along with the morning steak and eggs, and 1 bag of Lays potato chips as a snack 5 days per week.

lifted heavier weight in Arnold Presses
squats pulls and cleans still light

Perhaps I'm feeling some back pumps? Upped daily taurine from 2 to 3 g.

Played basketball and noticed ~1" increase in vertical, no noticeable change in stamina or strength.


General observation: Epi makes you thirsty. Drink 1-1.5 gal water per day to help your system, and just to slake your thirst.


Why are you guys suggesting no nolva? Epi shuts down natural test production. I don't think SARMs will replenish natural testosterone production alone. My understanding of SARMs is they hit the receptors in muscles without affecting the test production, so as natural test production is nursed back (greatly accelerated by nolva), the muscle receptors remain "on" cycle.
 
Also, alot of naysayers will tell you nolva won't work. There are definitely better options. I had great success with testopro and clomid. I'd swap your nolva with clomid at 25mg/ day for 4 weeks. If all you can get is nolva, then just use that at 20 Mgs a day for 3-4 weeks and i would look into a natty test booster too on top of that. You will recover fine like that
 
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