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Dutch Diva Log

Sassy you nailed it!
I couldn't agree with you more. I was that girl unfortunately, things went alittle differently for me. I was dating a bodybuilder, who told me I had such a great natural symmetry & foundation and I should set the goal to compete with him in his next show......18 weeks. And I did, 2-3 hrs of cardio, improper dieitng, drugs I made all the mistakes. Reflecting now I would have done everything differently.

It's taken over a yr to just get my body back to a point where it's working with me not against me. I have learned alot this past yr, in regards to training, and dieting. But for some reason I can't apply the diet. It's frustrating. But today I think I can, and I'll think that tomorrow too... still working on the positive thinking.

It's an addictive industry, we label ourselves by our shows and appearances not by who were are, what we are doing with life. The biggest thing I realised is I treat people the same whether I'm ripped or fat, Im the same person inside.....
Everything happens for a reason right, I have gone through this to be a better person. I no longer judge people based on their exterior appearance, and more importantly i don't base my own self worth on it anymore either.

Deep thoughts by jack handy, lol................
 
lol jack handy ...

It is sooo true tho. I find myself to be really critical of people (ESP "figure girls" and other model type people) and I'm the worst at competitions. Its been interesting tho because I've watched the evolution of whatever it is that they call "figure" "this" year -- it changes every year... and women's BB -- because I've been "in" it for 6 yrs and in the gym for 25 yrs. But I also don't hesitate to encourage women to train and not be scared of "getting muscle" and also letting them know how important diet is --- basically if someone truly wants to learn something new, I will start the discussion, if not, then I will probably not bring up the discussion -- so many people want the quickie solution and their heads explode if you start to tell them how important diet is and using SlimFast is NOT considered a healthy diet., etc etc etc.

But I still think getting thru all the myths and learning both that you can control your body to get the results you want and learning how your body works is so empowering and it enables you to make it thru life better and not be a victim of emotional eating, stress, age, etc.
 
True DAT!

I work on the side right now for a supplement company, I'm their demo girl........I hear all about if I take this product will I look like a magazine, most of the women I talk to are terribled of drinking a protein drink in fear of gaining weight but they will scraf down a bag of high GI caramel rice cakes, or drink their sugar loaded slimfast potions. Everyone wants a quick fix, thats why more girls are getting into drugs.

Same with training, the fear of lifting heavy will put on mass, and it drives me nuts, the skinny fat chick who judged me b/c i'm bigger, BUT I FEEL LIKE YELLING YOUR FATTER THAN ME! Well maybe not at the moment, lol, but I'm sure they are sitting in the mid 20% bf range.

I like you don't initate conversations with people I know won't take from what I have to share. When people talk to me about this stuff, I love it, knowledge is power baby!

Meal 5:
5oz chicken breast & veggies, 1 handful peanuts........i'm going to have to taper off these things what can i say I LOVE NUTS! :qt:
 
You know whatelse Sassy.......your critical b/c you know what your looking for..when it comes to people stepping on stage I'm the same way, only b/c u put yourself in a position to be judged. It's partly due to an appreciationg for the sport.......do they have a nice v-taper, do they have nice capped delts, etc... Theres nothing wrong with judges those of us who put ourselves out there to be on a stage.
 
dutch diva said:
You know whatelse Sassy.......your critical b/c you know what your looking for..when it comes to people stepping on stage I'm the same way, only b/c u put yourself in a position to be judged. It's partly due to an appreciationg for the sport.......do they have a nice v-taper, do they have nice capped delts, etc... Theres nothing wrong with judges those of us who put ourselves out there to be on a stage.


Well I think a part of it is just seeing what the "ideal" is. I was blown away by the amazing bodies I saw at the Jr Nationals this year, although what won last year at the same show didn't even place this year - so to that extent I think the whole sport is goofy if they arent' consistent or cant' describe what it is that they are looking for. But in being wishy washy w/ the judging criteria and what appears to be a move towards whatever the hell you consider "more feminine", the competitors are getting squishier and frankly I feel like the sport is starting to lose some of what it is supposed to be. I've been to a couple regional shows this year where fully 90% of the peope there (guys included!!! but mostly the women) had no business on stage -- they needed AT LEAST 4 more weeks of dieting. That IMO is a slap in the face to those who do put in the time to prepare. But that's just me. It all starts to look the same after a while and you do get a bit jaded about the actually judging though I know 99% of teh girls on the stage really dedicated themselves to getting on stage - but sometimes it takes a few more cycles of contest prep instead of just one round of 12-16 weeks - they tend to not think long term and prefer to try to force crazy changes or just want to get on stage before they are ready. But like I said - I'm not the perfect competitor - I've only done 3 shows and those have been spread out over time, but I've got 25 yrs of muscle mass and gym dedication and I have developed a much longer view of what it takes to get on stage and really compete. I know my short-comings but I've also passed into that phase of life where things dont' work so well anymore and I've got lots of mass, but I still compete at 20 lbs less than national level BBs my height - I don't really want to get that big - I hate being as big as I do get off season and I have a helluva time getting down for competition. But if you are around it all long enough, it becomes literally 2nd nature to make judgements on what is the goal and if someone accomplished it or where they can improve - I never make judgements to the person's detriment but rather try to make it constructive in an objective way. I still give props to anyone who makes it on stage, but I still believe that you only go on stage when you are ready -- its a balance between gettng the onstage experience and being ready -- they both need to come at the same time and it doesnt always work out that way even after 16 weeks -- so you plan a few other shows or take it for what it is and be happy w/ what you've accomplished and move to the next goal.

LOL long winded... Physique sports are retarded in that you devote your whole life, often to the detriment of your regular life & the people around you, for that few minutes on stage and then go thru the crazy rebound period as a result of it. Does any of that make any sense? Its psychotic! But its addicting as well. I do love it and its really easy to see where other people are in their own evolution so I am comfortable commenting on it :) I'm not a judge but I guess I've got enough experience watching it to make fairly accurate comments....
 
The sport is retarded, but if you take yourself out of the retardedness and do it for yourself for whatever reason its awesome. ANd yes addictive!
As far as judging criteria I hear ya, there needs to be more consistancy. I'm from Canada and the girls here that compete in figure are boarderline bodybuilders. Then they award the not so large girls one show and penalise them the next. You can't win, and thats why you have to do it for yourself, so you have already won by getting on stage or achieve the goals you have set for yourself.
I agree it takes time to be ready for a show, What I realise now is the off season is as important as the on season. Changes in physique take time.........
 
Little late on the welcome... :wavey:
Glad to have ya around here though DD and best of luck to ya with your goals!!!
 
Sassy: it's impossible!
Sbt: Thank you

One night down, many more to go! I went to my Bf's last night to sleep. Funny thing is I sleep like a log next to him. I must eat for comfort and he replaces that.

So far its a great day, meals are all clean (i'll post all together later) and training shoulders tonight. MY FAVORITE!!! PUMP IT, HITT IT, DRIVEE!!!!!! wOOT WOOT!
I also picked up this supplement today called Calm, it's magnesium... thats it, its suppose to aid in restful sleep. I also picked up L-Theanine which combats emotional eating urges. We'll see how it goes.

Still can't get my atvar up
 
Todays meals:

Meal 1: 30 grms Oats & 1 scoop ISO XP
Meal 2: 1 scoop Whey & 16 almonds
Meal 3: 1/2 potatoe, 8 egg whites, 1 tbsp pb
Meal 4: Veggies & 4 oz chicken Brest
Meal 5: COrn on the cob & 1 tbsp PB
Meal 6: Shake with 1 cup berries

So today was good, I still have alot of cleaning up on my diet to do.... too much PB, but the goal is to get there slowly!

Ended up taking today off of the gym, no biggie... I'm listening to my body.

Tonight new supp's nd sleeping @ home, if theres any 3 am posts you'll know why!

Night!
 
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