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bigp3
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Okay here is my take on it and why it makes so much sense to me. All that is needed to make a muscle grow is overload (the overload principle. I.E. More weight more intensity. Increased volume does not translate into overload. If this was true, you would see marathon runners with 34 inch quads. Think about it,,, if 8 sets of an excercise is great then why is 800 not better. Where does it stop. If you truly take the time to think about it, all that is needed to grow is one set per bodypart that constitutes an overload over your last workout. Anything that is above that dips into you recovery abilities. I would also dare say if you are putting everything you have into that one set that you would not be able to generate enough ability to match that intensity on any further sets. With his program, your body is given the stimulous to grow without overtraining. This allows for you train more often while recovering with more growth producing workouts per year. To me it is the first program that i have read that has logic and thought behind. Everything in this program makes perfect sense if you take the time to read about it and keep an open mind. People are always resistant to change and are afraid to give up old habits. It is a threat to them when someone presents a radical new idea. The earth was flat and the sun revolved around it at one time. Then someone came along and challenged this idea. People paniced, the church cried heritic. Okay i know that was a little dramatic, but you get my point. Keep an open mind and use your intelligence.
Bulldog_10
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bigp3 said:
I agree with the theory, but I think this training routine takes the theory to extremes. Volume is necessary in any training program, and it should be varied more than this program allows you to.
bigp3
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with his program you rotate exercises usually 3 different per body part. I guess the proof is in the results. I am going to me working with it strictly for the next year and see what happens. I don't think I am going to be dissapointed. My goal is to hit 300lbs and I dont think that is out of my reach right now. I will post before and after pics in a year....
overhead
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Have a question for you guys that may have been on this program longer than me. I started two weeks ago after reading ALL the threads. The workouts and stretching are tough enough, but I think the eating may kill me 
. Anyway I am a real active guy outside the gym, surf two or three times a week and play hockey atleast once a week plus three short but intense cardio sessions. I do not have a problem putting on weight, as a matter of fact currently I am a fat ass at 18% body fat (that is down from a high of 36% last year). I learned to move the leg days around my hockey games, skating the same day as that quad/hamstring routine is not fun. You think I should make any other dietier or routine adjustments?
. Anyway I am a real active guy outside the gym, surf two or three times a week and play hockey atleast once a week plus three short but intense cardio sessions. I do not have a problem putting on weight, as a matter of fact currently I am a fat ass at 18% body fat (that is down from a high of 36% last year). I learned to move the leg days around my hockey games, skating the same day as that quad/hamstring routine is not fun. You think I should make any other dietier or routine adjustments?
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Debaser
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Bulldog_10 said:
It's difficult to stand by "volume is necessary" when so many people have made huge gains (including myself) with extremely low volume.
bigp3
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bro if you want to get big,,, you cant half ass anything,,, diet,,, supps,,, etc.... If you want to surf,,, surf,,, if you want to get big get big,,, believe me I used to love to play basketball all the time and finally realized that it is not conducive to getting large... Ask yourself what you want the most then make your decision,,, if you want to get big then go balls to the wall with that decision
Bulldog_10
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Debaser said:
Yes, as I've said before...you will gain doing high intensity all the time...but your body will also overadapt...
you will gain from pretty much any type of training program, but after a while, if you don't change it up, it becomes less and less efficient.
overhead
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Thanks for the reply and I understand what you are saying, but I believe I can put on the size I want without stopping all other activities in my life. Now, if I wanted to become a 300 pound monster I would drop it all and focus on lifting alone. Just some background, I was at 257 with all of these activities going, of course that was at 36% or so body fat. I assume if I can maintain body fat like that doing what I do now than I would think I could get to 225-230 at 10% body fat without dropping everything. I could be wrong, but there is only one way to find out. Maybe I should have noted that I only am looking for 230 pounds, not 270.
Time to throw mine in:
I feel like DC's program is a valid training method. I think it looks similar to what Dorian Yates was such an advocate of. However it's not a great program for athletes and it is not a great program for powerlifters. That being said I think that as a bb routine it is a great program. I think some people have the capacity to handle more volume though and for those people this is not a good fit.
If you do 10 sets of 2 you can work at 500 pounds
If you do 1 set of 20 you can work with 315 pounds
both have the same volume one has more intensity, some will induce more hypertrophy from the lower intensity higher rep system...those people most likely have more endurance type II fiber than the people who grow more from the higher intensity routine.
I feel like DC's program is a valid training method. I think it looks similar to what Dorian Yates was such an advocate of. However it's not a great program for athletes and it is not a great program for powerlifters. That being said I think that as a bb routine it is a great program. I think some people have the capacity to handle more volume though and for those people this is not a good fit.
If you do 10 sets of 2 you can work at 500 pounds
If you do 1 set of 20 you can work with 315 pounds
both have the same volume one has more intensity, some will induce more hypertrophy from the lower intensity higher rep system...those people most likely have more endurance type II fiber than the people who grow more from the higher intensity routine.
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