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hehateme000
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gjohnson5 said:
Thx for all the replies, i mainly wanted it as a confidence boost too just to get a little stronger in the areas of my PFT score. It sounds like its pretty safe even if i dodecide to do it, but i might not and just train natty and get a good clean diet. But if i cant get that 300 PFT score by the time its gettin close to goin back in the service, ill probably do it
derfmonster
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whats your mos going to be?
csobel
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Don't mean to come across as a dick, but tons of people make it through spec. ops. selection each year without the sauce. We're talking pretty extreme pt and calorie depletion above and beyond boot camp wheather it be BRC, Pararescue Indoc, BUDS, SFAS, etc. Not sure what you want to do... get leaner and faster (better idea) or just get jacked before going (prob. not so good idea since it'll be gone pretty soon)?
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hehateme000
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Infantry is my MOS derf. ANd csobel i am just trying to get my PFT score up before i go back to bootcamp again so i can have a 300 PT score. I am going to be running a lot before i go there (want to be able to run 6 miles without stopping, but not sprinting it either). SO i want my abs and back to get stronger. I dont think 300mg of test kickstarted is gonna get me JACKED, but rather give me enough strength increase for me to get to my goals..
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hehateme000
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One more question......if i know im only going to be doing 2 cycles within the next 4 years while in the military should i bump the test to 500 and get better gains or will 300mg test with dbol kickstarted first 4 weeks still make me grow like a weed?
csobel
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I think the lower dose test is a better idea, especially for the corps pft. Mostly it'll decrease your recovery time, so you can train harder for the 3 mile, as well as slightly boosting your RBC count. Pullups should improve also due to more strength, but situps prob. won't be impacted much. The longer distance running will come with basic repetition and slowly increasing distance each week... not so much anything to do with the test. I think running a higher dose would add mass that will be detrimental to all the events in the PFT. Just my 2c
gjohnson5
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Another Infantry guy here...
I'm not sure how it is in the marines , but Infantry in the Army doesn't weed out people. It's not until you go to Ranger School that you that people get hit hard with pt/calorie and sleep deprivation. Our platoon runs are like 6-8 minute miles , so they aren't that hard. In fact I think a 12:00 minute 2 mile would max out run in the Marines for any age, but I'd need to check that. I definitely does in the Army. You don't have to be a marathon runner. The main thing is carrying ruck sack 240 or 249 if your machine gunner or m16 for everyone else and your body armor. Like the one guy said , all together in basic it's only 60lb's unless you have to carry a machine gun. Well you might have to carry a radio that might way 20lb or so. You'll have to hump that at fast pace while keeping your head up (yes you need to watch out for snipers from windows and rooftops and shit while staying in formation) Don't fall out of formation either. That's the big thing. I agree with most everyone that you don't need the cycle at all. But I don't see how it would hurt either. I would keep the dosages lower cause you're not gonna be able to juice in basic....
I'm not sure how it is in the marines , but Infantry in the Army doesn't weed out people. It's not until you go to Ranger School that you that people get hit hard with pt/calorie and sleep deprivation. Our platoon runs are like 6-8 minute miles , so they aren't that hard. In fact I think a 12:00 minute 2 mile would max out run in the Marines for any age, but I'd need to check that. I definitely does in the Army. You don't have to be a marathon runner. The main thing is carrying ruck sack 240 or 249 if your machine gunner or m16 for everyone else and your body armor. Like the one guy said , all together in basic it's only 60lb's unless you have to carry a machine gun. Well you might have to carry a radio that might way 20lb or so. You'll have to hump that at fast pace while keeping your head up (yes you need to watch out for snipers from windows and rooftops and shit while staying in formation) Don't fall out of formation either. That's the big thing. I agree with most everyone that you don't need the cycle at all. But I don't see how it would hurt either. I would keep the dosages lower cause you're not gonna be able to juice in basic....
hehateme000 said:
First off, being a Marine myself i can offer a few opinions for ya. Not trying to be a dick, but if you think you need to use steroids to have a pft good enough to get into recon, you DO NOT belong there to begin with. Forgetting the fact that using at your age is foolish for more reasons than can be listed, one or 2 cycles is not going to get you into recon, or benefit you in the long run. The LAST thing you need is to risk being not fully recovered going into boot camp. You need to train naturally to get where you want to go. You need to be strong mentally and physically ON YOUR OWN naturally, just to get thru boot, much less into recon. Besides, you are going to want to run more than anything else. I wish you the best of luck and really hope you rethink this whole thing.
derfmonster
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+1 zbo. if your gonna be a grunt taking gear is a total waste of time. i know i did 13 years as an 03. your gonna be in the field alot. training. And then traing some more. so you may get to the gym mabey 6 times a months. Then you'll get to goto the sandbox and kick in doors and run convoys for days at a time. So unless you switch to a POG then ur really not gonna get alot of time hitting the iron.
