Clean and Press questions...

[Arioch]

That is a good clip. Do not see too many athletes executing push jerks anymore.

Patera was a monster at this exercise. 540 pounds.

 

[b fold the truth]

It shall be fun with a 2" thick non-revolving bar too...

B True

 

[Arioch]

Does it have to be a strict press, or can you dip and drive, turning it into a push press?

Better yet, can you turn it into a jerk?

 

[b fold the truth]

It just has to go from shoulders to lockout...I jerk it.

B True

 

[Arioch]

Can you split really deeply under it? If so, and you can manage a decent split, it should really help.

Assuming, of course, you do not crack yourself in the chin.

 

[b fold the truth]

I find that with the split technique...it takes away from your time. It is most reps in 60 seconds...so the split would not be time efficient. It might come in handy on the last rep or two....when I am really struggling.

B True

 

[JOKER47]

see this clip

http://138.9.1.58/athleticperformance/exercise videos/Olympic Lift Videos/push jerk.mpg

Arioch/b fold the truth,
For overall upper body strength and power, do you think performing these would be more effective than strict BB military presses?

Thanks,
Joker

 

[b fold the truth]

Arioch/b fold the truth,
For overall upper body strength and power, do you think performing these would be more effective than strict BB military presses?

Thanks,
Joker

Yes...especially once proper technique is found...

B True

 

[gettinlarger]

ive been wanting to do these for weeks now. i think im finally gonna give it a whirl in a couple days.

for those who care, which should you big strong fellas ... i forget the dudes name, but i saw a clip of him cleaning and pressing 600+ pounds. like it was cake. it was insane. ill be lucky if i can do 135 ... hopefully ...

 

[bignate73]

ive been wanting to do these for weeks now. i think im finally gonna give it a whirl in a couple days.

for those who care, which should you big strong fellas ... i forget the dudes name, but i saw a clip of him cleaning and pressing 600+ pounds. like it was cake. it was insane. ill be lucky if i can do 135 ... hopefully ...

135 shouldnt be a problem. learn every component to the movement first. break it down into all parts and practice them. that way you ensure that its technique you are using and not just muscling it up there. dont get me wrong, it takes muscle but you want the right ones working.

hips and glutes driving the bar from the low position, not lower back. traps continuing the drive up with arms/shoulders following for the second pull. play with grip width (as bfold found) so you can make the catch in the right spot and dont get any surprises.

i have been over the past couple weeks just working on doing RDL shrugs just to make sure i was using my hips instead of my back. i have nice bruises on my quads from contact with the bar. high pulls and RDL shrugs should be the first step you master. the catch and front squat being the finishing touches.

there was an excellent article in the NSCA journal last month on obstacles in learning/teaching the hang clean. ive dissected it and found others on the net to help me.

technically, im my own guinea pig right now. i probably will never teach a full clean to someone but the RDL (done properly) and possibly a shrug or even high pull for a coordinated client. i need to go to a clinic or 2 on OL style lifts sometime in the near future. but for now...nose in the books and practice in the gym.

sigh....