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ASU 2005 Log

ASU, you should post up what you eat on your cheat day. Maybe that would help figure out why you get sick. Don't worry if it's a crazy amount of food or stuff that's really bad... we all do it once in awhile :verygood:. I'm finding that I think I need to not have a cheat day and maybe just have 2 cheat meals during the week. Either Daisy or Sassy posted different cheat options, I'm going to experiment.
 
ASU said:
Thanks ashley :)
I think the reason why Im binging like crazy, because Im not seeing that I have a well planned (diet plan) to lose body fat
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Well, I think your diet is pretty solid... I would personally add more carbs in there, since you do so much activity, but again, whatever works for you...

I didn't see any stats here, sorry if I'm blind, can you post em again? :p
 
oh, my cheat day(s).. everything around the house I eat.. I live with my family that eat everything.. :(

Im 5'3 and I havent stepped on the scale ever since I started to binge like 3-4 months ago
 
starting tomorrow for 2 weeks with not cheats!!!

1300 cals with ratio: 40%P 20% C 40% F

carbs will be pre workout and post workout only! and on cardio days carbs will only be post cardio

feel free for any comments
 
I forced myself to step on the scale today after binging from sunday till today :( and Im up 130 lbs!!!!!!!!! maybe 5 lbs of this is water but the rest is the weight I gained lately! I used to be 110 back in october
 
ASU said:
I forced myself to step on the scale today after binging from sunday till today :( and Im up 130 lbs!!!!!!!!! maybe 5 lbs of this is water but the rest is the weight I gained lately! I used to be 110 back in october
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well....1300.



Follow the EXACT diet listed in the Shaodw summary thread.


it would be PERFECT.
 
This is what Im looking at for the next 2 weeks:

1300 cals
43.5% protein
13% Carbs
43.5% Fat

* Im only counting the carbs from the oats (post workout)
Veggies, cottage cheese, protein shake carbs not included with my 13% ratio

Every Wednesday Night = last meal will have a Cliff bar or a balance bar
 
ASU said:
This is what Im looking at for the next 2 weeks:

1300 cals
43.5% protein
13% Carbs
43.5% Fat

* Im only counting the carbs from the oats (post workout)
Veggies, cottage cheese, protein shake carbs not included with my 13% ratio

Every Wednesday Night = last meal will have a Cliff bar or a balance bar
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Carbs are too low.

I think most anyone would agree.....yuo are gonna drop your natural thyroid producion
 
The Shadow said:
Carbs are too low.

I think most anyone would agree.....yuo are gonna drop your natural thyroid producion
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Even if I tweak it once a week last meal of the day(night) ?
 
ASU said:
Even if I tweak it once a week last meal of the day(night) ?
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...even if....


hey - if you dont believe me...take your morning temp immediately upon waking....
 
The Shadow said:
...even if....


hey - if you dont believe me...take your morning temp immediately upon waking....
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I believe you :heart:
what would happen to my temp ? would it be too low?

This is only going to be for 2 weeks and I will increase my cals and carbs weekly after the first 2 weeks
My goal by the first week of march is to be with 33%, 34%, 33% ratio and 1700 cals
 
ASU said:
I believe you :heart:
what would happen to my temp ? would it be too low?

This is only going to be for 2 weeks and I will increase my cals and carbs weekly after the first 2 weeks
My goal by the first week of march is to be with 33%, 34%, 33% ratio and 1700 cals
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Take you r temp and then we'll talk.


HEy - Its your body......
 
Is it really bad? for only 2 weeks?
I see bodybuilders do it with Beverly's International Diet
 
ASU said:
Is it really bad? for only 2 weeks?
I see bodybuilders do it with Beverly's International Diet
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I see trainers bitching at Skittles that she cant possible lose fat on her diet......doesnt mean its true.


Darlin - bbers supplement with so many things that Im sure T-3 in among them......
 
Youve seen Skittles' pic right?


How can you NOT want to try that program?
 
Im not saying your diet is not worth a try.
I just dont see how this wont work or how it will effect me
 
ASU said:
Im not saying your diet is not worth a try.
I just dont see how this wont ....effect me
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I know...and that bothers me.


....hey...Im not arguing....knock yourself out.
 
Maybe it will work, but you'll probably feel like shit. One morning I made a shake with water (no milk) & I had a headache BAD. I think you probably need to keep the carbs as is, or you won't feel well & your WO won't be up to par. That's just what I found though.
 
The Shadow said:
I know...and that bothers me.


....hey...Im not arguing....knock yourself out.
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why does it bother you?
Im saying your diet will work if I try it

There are alot of changes I have to do to make it work for my time schedule, work, training, etc..

my second meal is usualy my post workout meal and peanuts cant be my post workout meal
 
skittles said:
Maybe it will work, but you'll probably feel like shit. One morning I made a shake with water (no milk) & I had a headache BAD. I think you probably need to keep the carbs as is, or you won't feel well & your WO won't be up to par. That's just what I found though.
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I was on a diet once very similar to beverly's (carb ups twice a week with oats, banana, sweet potatoes) and it worked well.. I did feel like crap sometimes. I know the consequences
Thats why Im trying this for no longer than 2 weeks and will increase my cals and carbs weekly after that
 
ASU said:
why does it bother you?
Im saying your diet will work if I try it

There are alot of changes I have to do to make it work for my time schedule, work, training, etc..

my second meal is usualy my post workout meal and peanuts cant be my post workout meal
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Like I said......knock yourself out.


...Im going to REALLY lower my carbs to lose weight quickly and then increase them AND carb content after this burst.



and yeah - no shit...my diet will work....


LOL

ok - lemme know in 2 weeks how much FAT you have lost/gained.

get a bf test now and then


oh - to answer you r question.........it bothers me that someone will do something that is :


A - Illogical
B - Short Term
c -Moving them away from where they want to be
 
The Shadow said:
Like I said......knock yourself out.
oh - to answer you r question.........it bothers me that someone will do something that is :


A - Illogical
B - Short Term
c -Moving them away from where they want to be
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moving them away from where they want to be?

when I increase my carbs and maintain my carbs in the future, it will still be "the healthy" carbs ..

1
¾ Cup Oats, ½ Cup Egg whites, 3 Egg whites

2
2 Slices Bread , 1 Low Carb Yogurt, 2 Strawberries, ½ Scoop Whey, 1 Fish Oil

3
1 Cup Brown Rice, 3 oz. Chicken, Green Beans

4
½ Cup Brown Rice, 4 oz. Chicken, Cabbage, 4 Fish Oil

5
1 Scoop Whey, 5 Fish Oil

This used to be my typical diet
 
I know I will be losing some muscles in these 2 weeks.. but I will be build it up. when I have more confidence with my body weight
 
ASU said:
moving them away from where they want to be?

when I increase my carbs and maintain my carbs in the future, it will still be "the healthy" carbs ..

1
¾ Cup Oats, ½ Cup Egg whites, 3 Egg whites

2
2 Slices Bread , 1 Low Carb Yogurt, 2 Strawberries, ½ Scoop Whey, 1 Fish Oil

3
1 Cup Brown Rice, 3 oz. Chicken, Green Beans

4
½ Cup Brown Rice, 4 oz. Chicken, Cabbage, 4 Fish Oil

5
1 Scoop Whey, 5 Fish Oil

This used to be my typical diet
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no...moving YOU away form having less bodyfat by killing your thyroid production via lowered carbs.....



Good luck....


Im not arguing.....but I am done.
 
I think my thyroid is already a mess :( not having a monthly period one thing
I will be getting thyroid and blood work done 5-6 weeks from now
cant get it done now, since the medication I took is still in my system (birth control patch)

Thanks :)
yes, thats all I need the best of luck
 
1/21/2005

Weights: Pull

Reverse Grip Cable Pulldown 75/12, 11

Iso-lateral Row Machine 60/12, 10, 10, 8

DB Shrugs (each side) 45/12, 10, 8

Hammer Curls (alternating) 25/8, 7

Seated Incline DB Alternating Curls 20/6, 6

DB Concentration Curls 15/9, 8

Cardio: Off
 
Meals 1/21/2005

7:20
2 Whole Eggs, 1/2 Cup Egg Whites, 1/4 Cup FF Cheese, 2 Fish Oil, Green Pepper

10:00 Post-workout
1/2 Cup Oats, 1.25 Scoop Whey

2:00
1 Can Tuna, 2 tsp. Olive Oil, Broccoli

4:30
1 Scoop Whey, 1 TBSP PB, 2 Fish Oil

~7:30
1 Cup FF Cottage Cheese, 1 TBSP Olive Oil, Cucumbers
 
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1/22/2005

Weights: Push

Flat DB Bench Press 25/12, 27.5/9, 8

Seated DB Incline Press 22.5/12, 25/9, 6

DB Rotations 10/12, 12

DB Lateral Raise 17.5/10, 7

DB Shoulder Press 22.5/8, 6, 6

Reverse Pec-Dec Machine 45/12, 50/9

Reverse Close Grip Bench Press 35/10, 10, 9

BB Skull Crushers 20/9, 6, 5 (working on balancing)

Cardio: Off
 
1/22/2005

5:10
1 Can Tuna, 1/2 TBSP Olive oil, 3 Fish oil

8:00 Post-workout
1/2 Cup Oats, 2 Scoops Designer's Whey

10:30
1 Scoop Designer's Whey, 1 TBSP PB, 2 Fish oil

1:50
1 Salmon Burger, Celery, Onions, Green Pepper

5:10
2 Whole Eggs, 1 Slice FF Cheese, Okra, Onions, Cucumbers

~ 8:00
1/2 Cup FF Cottage Cheese, 1 TBSP PB
 
1/23/2005

Weights:Pull

Cable Pulldowns 90/10, 9, 75/10

1 Arm DB Row 32.5/10, 9, 30/10

DB Shrugs 45/10, 10, 7 <-- lost grip

BB Curls 40/12, 9

Cable Curls 60/10, 10

DB Alternating Curls 22.5/7, 20/10

Cardio: 25 Minutes Elleptical
since cycling class was full :(
 
1/23/2005

7:20
2 Whole Eggs, 1/2 Cup Egg Whites, 1 Slice FF Cheese, 2 Fish oil, Okra

10:15 Post-workout
2/3 Cup Oats, 2 Scoops Designer's Whey Protein

1:30
4 oz. Chicken Breast, 1/2 TBSP Olive oil, 1 Fish oil, Broccoli, Cucumbers

4:30
3 oz. Chicken Breast, 1/2 TBSP Olive oil, 1 Fish oil, Lettuce, Cucumbers

~8:00
1 Cup FF Cottage Cheese, 1 TBSP Olive oil
 
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My plan is to have a cliff protein bar once a week for a cheat meal (7:30 pm meal)
I was wondering if this is enough? or should I do this 2 times a week?? maybe every 3-4 days?
 
I chose this bar because its high in sugar and low in fat and protein (good for a cheat meal to shock my body a little)
 
1/24/2005

7:25 (Post-cardio)
2/3 Cup Oats, 1/2 Cup Egg Whites, 3 Egg Whites w. Cinnamon

10:30
1.5 Scoop Whey, 1 TBSP PB

1:30
4 oz. Chicken, 1/2 TBSP Olive oil, 1 Fish oil, Green beans

4:30
1 Scoop Whey, 1 TBSP PB, 2 Fish oil

7:40
1 Cup FF Cottage Cheese, 1 TBSP Olive oil, Cucumbers, Organic Salsa
 
Im going to try two tweaks per week for now since my carbs are low

Wednesdays and Saturdays (Nights)

Wednesday- Clif bar

Saturday- ~ 6 oz. Sweet Potato, 1 TBSP Butter
 
1/25/2005

Weights: Push

Decline DB Chest Press 25’s/12, 10, 9

Cable Flyes 20’s/10, 10, 8

DB Rotations 10’s/10, 10

BB Upright Rows 50/10, 8

DB Shoulder Press 22.5’s/10, 10, 8

Bent-over DB Laterals 12.5’s/10, 9

Reverse Grip Cable Pressdown 60/12, 10,9

Kneeling down Cable overhead extensions 40/8, 10, 7

Cardio: Off
 
1/25/2005

6:40
2 Whole Eggs, 1/2 Cup Egg Whites, 1 Slice FF Cheese, 2 Fish oil, Okra, Organic Salsa

9:40 post-workout
2/3 Cup Oats, 1.25 Scoop Whey

1:00
4 oz. Chicken, 1/2 TBSP Olive oil, 1 Fish oil, Celery, Yellow Pepper

~ 4:30
2 oz. Chicken, 1 Whole Egg, 4 Fish Oil, Pepper, Cucumbers

~8:00
1/2 Cup FF Cottage Cheese, 1/2 Scoop Whey, 2 TBSP PB
 
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Ok ASU huney..... I just read your whole journal, and I see that a few people have said what I'm going to say, your carbs are too low, this is why on the weekends you binge. I understand that you want to lose some weight but I don't think this is the way to do it.

Do you feel hungry through the day?

Personal if I go under 25% carbs, I turn into a total bitch, and can't function lol. not saying this is the case with you, this is how it is with me.

How do you feel on your diet that you're on now?
 
miss24k, I know what Im doing now is not very healthy diet plan.
But I know if I focus on it for few more weeks, I won't let the binging happen again

So far... its been 7 days with this plan and Im not having any cravings, although today I will have a mini tweak meal.

Im planing on tweaking my carbs a little twice a week (having a carb meal)
In addition I will be increasing my carbs % ratio.. week by week 5% a week (this will start on the 9'th) till I reach the 34/33/33 plan

Im not feeling hungry.. but when I feel like Im losing energy, I make myself a cup of coffee or Black Tea and add some stevia & nondairy powdered milk
 
I just get hungry after my 1'st meal.. I make sure to eat lots of green veggies with my meals to stay full :)
 
1/26/2005

7:40 post-cardio
2/3 Cup Oats, 1/2 Cup Egg Whites, 3 Egg Whites, Cinnamon

10:30
1 Can Tuna, 2 tsp. Olive oil, Broccoli

1:30
1 Scoop Whey, 20 Peanuts

~ 4:30
1 Can Tuna, 2 tsp. Olive oil, Celery, Cucumbers

~7:30 ;)
1 Chocolate Chip Clif Bar
5 F, 45 C (21 sugar), 10 P

~10:00
1/2 Cup FF Cottage Cheese, 5 Fish oil
 
ASU said:
miss24k, I know what Im doing now is not very healthy diet plan.
But I know if I focus on it for few more weeks, I won't let the binging happen again
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I don't understand why you would do something that you know isn't very healthy :confused:

Well I hope for your sake that you're able to control your binges, but I'll telling you the reason you're binging is because your carbs are too low.

I feel pretty safe in saying that you'll see more gains if you were to up your carbs abit.

Are you seeing changes with your body on this diet?
 
Miss24k said:
I don't understand why you would do something that you know isn't very healthy :confused:

Well I hope for your sake that you're able to control your binges, but I'll telling you the reason you're binging is because your carbs are too low.

I feel pretty safe in saying that you'll see more gains if you were to up your carbs abit.

Are you seeing changes with your body on this diet?
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I have binged before when I had carbs in my diet ~ 180-200 grams carbs :(
I guess something just hit my mind and I started to binge. It was off and on for a year. and kept my body fat low. October of last year is when It was bad

Yes, I agree with you if I increase my carbs a little I would see more gains

I am getting leaner with this diet. its been only a week and I know what I lost so far is mostly the water weight that I was carrying
 
*Bunny* said:
I use to LOVE those things! LOL I could seriously eat 4 in one sitting, I chose to give up all bars...(i think) :chomp:
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I only allow them on cheat days :qt:
what flavor you like the best?
 
That's what I will be having tonight :)
I was debating on the almond flavor and the chocolate chip
 
ASU said:
That's what I will be having tonight :)
I was debating on the almond flavor and the chocolate chip
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I used to be a sucker for the Myoplex Lite double choc. chip ones too... bad bunny :verygood:
 
*Bunny* said:
I used to be a sucker for the Myoplex Lite double choc. chip ones too... bad bunny :verygood:
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You can make your own protein bar at home
Let me post a recipe on the recipe section :chomp:
 
1/27/2005

Weights: Pull

Iso-lateral Row Machine 60’s/12, 60’s/11, 65’s/7, 65’s/ 6

Reverse Grip Cable Pulldown 75/12, 90/8

DB Shrugs 45’s/10, 9, 6

Hammer Curls 25’s/7, 6

Seated Incline DB Alternating Curls 20’s/7, 6

DB Concentration Curls 15/7, 7

Cardio: 40 Minutes Spin
 
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1/27/2005

7:20
2 Whole Eggs, 1/2 Cup Egg Whites, 1 Slice FF Cheese, 2 Fish oil, Okra, Organic Salsa

10:30 post-workout
3/4 Cup Oats, 1.5 Scoop Whey

1:30
1 Scoop Designer's Whey, 1 TBSP Almond Butter, 2 Fish Oil

5:40
4 oz. Chicken, 1/2 TBSP Olive oil, 1 Fish oil, Broccoli, Cucumbers

~8:30
1 Cup FF Cottage Cheese, 1 TBSP Olive oil
 
1/28/2005

7:40
2 Whole Eggs, 1/2 Cup Egg Whites, 1/4 Cup FF Cheese, 2 Fish Oil, Okra, Yellow Pepper

11:40
1 Can Tuna, 1 TBSP Olive oil, Broccoli

2:30
1.5 Scoop Whey Protein, 1 TBSP Almond Butter, 2 Fish oil

6:50
1 Can Tuna, 1 TBSP Olive oil, Lettuce, Cucumbers, Onions
 
1/29/2005

Weights: Push/Legs

Flat DB Bench Press 27.5’s/10, 5, 7

Seated DB Incline Press 25’s/10, 7, 7

DB Rotations 10’s/12, 12

DB Lateral Raise 17.5’s/10, 7

DB Shoulder Press 20’s/12, 22.5’s/5, 5

Reverse Pec-dec flye 50/10, 8

Close Grip Reverse BB Press 30/10, 7, 7 <----still working on balance

BB Skull Crushers 20/9, 8, 7 <----still working on balance

Legs extensions 90/9, 75/, 10, 10, 10

Leg Curls 50/12, 55/8, 55/6, 50/8

Cardio: Off
 
I went and bought some protein bars for the next 3 weeks of cheat meals :)
One Way (peanut butter flavor), Balance Bar (Yogurt Honey Peanut) and a Power Bar (vanilla crisp flavor) ;)
 
ASU said:
I went and bought some protein bars for the next 3 weeks of cheat meals :)
One Way (peanut butter flavor), Balance Bar (Yogurt Honey Peanut) and a Power Bar (vanilla crisp flavor) ;)
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lol bad bad bad bad bad, have a great weekend too suga!

Off to drink some wiiiinnnne
 
*Bunny* said:
lol bad bad bad bad bad, have a great weekend too suga!

Off to drink some wiiiinnnne
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I won't have the first protein bar not till next friday .. My next carb meal, which will be next monday is 6 oz. sweet potato and 1 TBSP Butter
and the other 2 protein bars will be the following week monday and friday

Have fun :)
 
1/29/2005

5:00
1 Can Tuna, 1/2 TBSP Olive oil, 3 Fish oil, Organic Salsa

7:40 post-workout
2/3 Cup Oats, 1 Scoop Whey

10:30
1 Scoop Designer's Whey, 1 TBSP PB, 2 Fish oil

2:00
1/2 Salmon Burger, 1 Whole Egg, 1 Slice FF Cheese, Lettuce, Cucumbers

5:30
1/2 Salmon Burger, 1 Whole Egg, 1/4 Cup Egg Whites, Okra, Onions, Yellow Pepper

Meal 6
3/4 Cup FF Cottage Cheese, 1 TBSP Flax Oil
 
1/30/2005

Weights: Pull

Cable Pulldowns 90/9, 7, 7

1 Arm DB Row 32.5’s/9, 7, 7

DB Shrugs 45’s/10, 9, 7

BB Curls 40/12, 7

Cable Curls 60/12, 65/7

DB Curls 22.5’s/10, 6

Cardio: 50 Minutes Spin
 
1/30/2005

7:30
2 Whole Eggs, 1/2 Cup Egg Whites, 1 Slice FF Cheese, 2 Fish oil, Okra, Yellow Pepper

10:30 Post-workout
3/4 Cup Oats, 1.5 Scoop Whey

1:30
4 oz. Chicken, 2 tsp. Flax oil, Broccoli

~4:45 (eating with guests)
Skinless Chicken, Plain Cucumbers

8:00
1/2 Cup FF Cottage Cheese, 1/2 Scoop Whey, 1.5 TBSP PB
 
my body doesn't feel like it needs the tweak meal tonight.. but I gotta have it in order to keep up with my plan
 
1/31/2005

7:40post-cardio
2/3 Cup Oats, 1/2 Cup Egg Whites, 4 Egg Whites

10:20
1.5 Scoop Whey, 1 TBSP Flax oil

1:30
4 oz. Chicken, 1/2 TBSP Olive oil, Broccoli

4:45
4 oz. Chicken, 12 Almonds, Lettuce, Cucumbers

8:00 (Tweak Meal) :chomp:
6 oz. Skinless Sweet Potato (measured baked), 1 TBSP Butter (I can't believe it's not butter), Green Beans, Organic Salsa
 
skittles said:
Asu - did you have your BF checked fr. the beginning till now?
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No, but back in the first week in October when my diet was good.. I had my body fat checked and it was 14% with 109-112 lbs.

As soon as I see my pants fit me the way they used to, I will get my body fat checked again.. but with a diffrent trainer since the old trainer moved :worried:
 
The Shadow said:
..you dont get it Sweets.

the scale number is bullshit.
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I get it :) and I also get if my waist gets smaller and biceps staying the same its a sign that my body fat is dropping
 
He's right. In the past 3 weeks I have dropped a pant size, but only lost 3 lbs as per scale. I have also lost inches fr. my waist & hips.

I'm not a pro, but wouldn't it be better to geat healthy carbs ( a bit everyday) than to eat your sugar cliff bar a couple times a week?

That would probably fuel your WO's better & you wouldn't be eatting junk. Maybe I'm out of line, but you would probably see better results.

What program are you following? :)
 
ASU said:
I get it :) and I also get if my waist gets smaller and biceps staying the same its a sign that my body fat is dropping
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no....ab training will pull in your waist and make it measure smaller with no fat loss....


How long have you been training??



Ive probably been training peopl elonger than you have been lifting...Ive heard all the excuses....and that is what they are..excuses...not reasons..


I think the reason you dont want a bf test is that you KNOW you are probably buring lbm...
 
The Shadow said:
no....ab training will pull in your waist and make it measure smaller with no fat loss....


How long have you been training??



Ive probably been training peopl elonger than you have been lifting...Ive heard all the excuses....and that is what they are..excuses...not reasons..


I think the reason you dont want a bf test is that you KNOW you are probably buring lbm...
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Been training for 2.5 years now..
I maybe burning lbm and Im willing to risk that ..as long as I lose the body fat that I have gained recnently..
I can re-build it .. even after I screw up my metabolism
 
ASU said:
Been training for 2.5 years now..
I maybe burning lbm and Im willing to risk that ..as long as I lose the body fat that I have gained recnently..
I can re-build it .. even after I screw up my metabolism
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you have stated that your throid is already shot....


...what you are doing is inherently idiotic and unhealthy...

why in the hell do you think your metabolsim is f*cked at this point??


fine...your body..you have to live with it.


but dont expect anyone to sipport what you are doing because it would be the definition of hypocrisy.
 
skittles said:
He's right. In the past 3 weeks I have dropped a pant size, but only lost 3 lbs as per scale. I have also lost inches fr. my waist & hips.

I'm not a pro, but wouldn't it be better to geat healthy carbs ( a bit everyday) than to eat your sugar cliff bar a couple times a week?

That would probably fuel your WO's better & you wouldn't be eatting junk. Maybe I'm out of line, but you would probably see better results.

What program are you following? :)
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Thanks for the adivce :)

I've been learning about nutriton and bodybuilding since 2003
tried many and got help from mods, adminstrators and helped me alot.. I screwed up big time for the last 3-4 months ..and I think now I know what my body can and cannot handle .. I know we need carbs and yes, like I said earlier Im leading my lifestyle into the 34/33/33 plan
 
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