Anavar cycle...HTPA

[Bruce]

hcg is not necessary with use of anavar

 

[Papa Lion]

var will shut you down... so when people say that you don't need a p-c-t.... why is that??

 

[layinback]

Anavar - oxandrolone - will shut you down... so when people say that you don't need a p-c-t.... why is that??

the studies that were cited earlier in this thread are based on a dosage range of 2 mg to 20 mg. if you use 40 mg and up for 8- 10 wks it can shut you the fuck down....been there, done that.

 

[Bruce]

i never said that it will not shut you down. i am going straight from experience. anavar has never caused my testes to shrink nor has it done so to anyone i know. i only use hcg when the testes shrink. hcg does not bring back natural test levels only clomid and nolva do. hcg simply brings the testes back to size so that they are able to produce natural test again. what is the dispute here i don't seem to understand. he wants to run the most basic cycle which requires barely any other ancillaries or serms.

 

[Papa Lion]

i never said that it will not shut you down. i am going straight from experience. anavar has never caused my testes to shrink nor has it done so to anyone i know. i only use HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - when the testes shrink. HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - does not bring back natural test levels only clomid and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - do. HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - simply brings the testes back to size so that they are able to produce natural test again. what is the dispute here i don't seem to understand. he wants to run the most basic cycle which requires barely any other ancillaries or serms.

no bone with you bro!! I just keep hearing that anavar doesn't require p-c-t cause it's so mild... an it's just wrong!! as for h-c-g... it does more than just get your testes back up to size, and even if you haven't shrunk I still rec using it!!!

 

[funkyfresh]

OK guys, regardless as to will it or won't it shut you down.

Do you think some Nolvadex throughout the cycle be worth it....just to help aid the cholesterol and HTPA issues?

Yes, I do intend on a proper PCT.

 

[lilj888]

so if anavar does shut u down all the way and if u dont take any PCT - post cycle therapy - will ur shit go back to normal after awhile?

its just a question dont freak out.

 

[mattdan]

To answer your question -

Clomid is very cheap and very effective for pct and to have on hand if you should suffer libido problems on cycle. a na will most likely not completely shut you down at that dose, but it sure will at least supress.

Stew covered all bases very well and beat me to the punch on the creatine. I am generally against taking creatine on cycles, but on this cycle I think it would be a nice addition.

There is no good argument for running nolva thru this cycle. I would not. There are plenty of natural supplements to help cholesterol. Take those instead. Plant sterols are great for that.

Sooner or later some one-cycle-vet-internet-expert will jump on here and tell you what an idiot you are for doing an oral only cycle. Tell them to piss off. You know what you're doing here for the most part. You've certainly done your homework anyway.

Welcome back Stew. Good to have a good knowledgable vet back on board.

 

[Bruce]

no bone with you bro!! I just keep hearing that anavar doesn't require p-c-t cause it's so mild... an it's just wrong!! as for h-c-g... it does more than just get your testes back up to size, and even if you haven't shrunk I still rec using it!!!

i here you bro. man it doesn't matter what your on guys primo, var, winny they all shut you down. yes is not going to shut you down as fast as something like a gram of test deca or tren but it shuts you down. its such a bitch getting hcg these days but i agree its always good to use it. just for fun, it fills your boys up for some old faithful action. clomid is truly great though for keeping your natty test levels up. no matter what he will have to run pct, there is not dispute.