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Adv Super Stack Finished - PCT starting

shadow_keeper

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The 'advanced super stack' from needto is about complete, 3 days to go and then I'll start the PCT process. It was my first cycle in a decade, but I took all sups at the low recommended dosage (2 caps a day) and it's been a wild ride to say the least.

At 39 years of age, I was amazed to see myself put on 28 pounds of mass in only 4 weeks with the Diesel/TFO combo. A good amount of pudge was put on as well in the waist but the cardio routine afterwards helped kick in the burning while I was on the Dermacrine bridge for the following 4 weeks.

When I started the second half of the cycle with Beast/Katana, I was kinda shocked that nothing was really happening until half-way into week 3 and then holy cow did everything change. I couldn't stop sweating, and my strength went through the roof. The sweating was really bad though because it affected my sleep really bad, waking up every 90 minutes or so. Now that I'm at the end, I'm starting to sleep a 4 hour block, take a piss, then sleep another 4 hours and that's okay. Diesel didn't affect my sleep, just the Katana I guess. Since the second half of the cycle didn't kick-in until almost week 4, I just decided to continue the 2 caps a day program until I emptied the bottle. So I will finish at day 41 with the Beast, but I feel okay and my waist-line is looking better than it ever has :-) Which is really why I'm finishing the bottle to get the max fat-loss I can get.

So my timeline was:
Diesel/TFO 1-4 weeks, 2 caps
Dermacrine 5-8 weeks,
Beast/Katana 9-14 weeks, 2 caps, (3 caps on chest day, lol)

After all is said and done, I picked up 23 pounds of lean muscle, and dropped 11% body fat. Not too bad for an old fart like myself. My question is about PCT. I've got Needto's Forged PCT, Cell Labs PCT, and a bottle of Sustain Alpha. I've also got 40 tablets of 20mg Nolva in case of an emergency but I don't plan to use it (hopefully).

I definitely want to keep most of what I've put on. It's been expensive, my shoulders were bothering me with the increased lifts on the bench, and I found out that was the problem (the bar), so I sold my bench and bought 30-100 lb rubber dumbbell set in 5lb increments and my shoulder pain is gone. $1.50 pound for those things adds up but I love my setup in the basement :-) Also bought a Powertec Leverage gym setup that is super easy on the shoulders and safe to do squats and presses un-spotted.

Any other suggestions or additions for PCT that I start Saturday? I know I got enough stuff to get me started for sure. Needto's PCT and Sustain Alpha in the 'package' was supposedly enough for this advanced stack, but I bought the Cell Labs for more safety.

Thanks guys, just wanted to post an update. Appreciate the knowledge on here...

Larry
 
PCT looks good to go. Congrats man, those are some great numbers. I know at 33 years old I love seeing the results that I have on Needto's stuff. I never want to stop.

Hopefully you took some before and after pics.
 
Nice gains! Im actually on week 3 of the exact same stack.... needto suggested forged pct and sustain alpha for my pct... I might add unleashed in there myself.
 
My sleep sucked again last night, woke up in 3 hours wide awake, but managed to stay in bed this morning and toss around 45 minutes and then fall asleep again for another 3 hours. Geez, I hope my sleep pattern returns back to normal in a few days. Had to flip the pillow case around since I was laying in wet. gosh the sweating...

Oh guys, do I count the 'bridge' time in calculating my off time? Already trying to figure out when I start another stack, lol. I'm thinking sometime in late March :-) I got a few bottles of Hella and Epi strong which is suppose to be a good lean stack as well... Probably will do another Beast though since I like the lean gains and not the bloated gains I got at first.

Oh one more question, what warning signs will I see if I need to take the emergency-only Nolva during PCT? Sore nipples or what?

Thanks,
Larry
 
Understand the new product, but is it NECESSARY with all the other PCT products I'm taking ? And is there a bonus bottle special with the HCG like the other bottles going on right now?
 
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If one has actual HCG on hand, is that better than this OTC for an epi cycle?

To achieve the degree of what HCG does, of course.

HCGenerate does more than what HCG doe in terms of addressing the different pathways by which testosterone is stimulated to be produced though.

HCG is estrogenic as well, so having an AI on hand may be necessary.


For an OTC product, NOTHING is as good as what is in HCGenerate.
 
So Sustain Alpha is no longer the gold standard of OTC PCT products? HCGenerate is actually better than Sustain?
 
So Sustain Alpha is no longer the gold standard of OTC PCT products? HCGenerate is actually better than Sustain?


Sustain is an excellent thing to use still. It contains different things altogether from HCGenerate.

Sustain is also good for cholesterol and cardiovascular health improvement that is necessary after using orals, besides stimulating natural testosterone production. The resveratrol ad 7,8 benzoflavonoes are both awesome PCT ingredients, and Sustain Alpha's delivery systems ae second to none, whethet you use the topical or the new liquivade.

HCGenerate is an amazing product, but you have to pay for it. The ingredients are rare and expensive, but more importantly, they are proven effective.
 
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