250-300g Protein/Day

[Murker]

The job of any good and smart trainer or nutritionist is to realize every person is different than the other... Instead of taking generalized bull shit you take a person, their circumstance, body type, history etc through consultation and trial and error... You dont take a bunch of regurgitated bull shit snd apply it to everyone and think your right... Thats mot how it works...

Real talk right there man! Too much generalizing on forums, gotta get the information thats right for you, and only you! Germaine tried to feed me that crap too, I was thinking like "wth is this guy talking about, none of this sounds right at all"


EDIT : 250-300grams of protien!?!? great god! haha. I should try that out, just I find it so difficult to consume that much protein. For example, to get in around 30-40grams of protein I would need to eat a whole skinless lean chicken breast. Thats like 9 chicken breasts a day!(of course I know you will be taking in protein in other ways, but please, enlighten me how!)

EDIT EDIT : By enlighten me, I mean give me an example of the meal plan in a 24 hour period that grants you over 250 grams of protein, not doubting you can do, I just want to know how

 

[notjake11]

Hey...only this dad can call his daughter batshit crazy...it is more like she has been abducted and hasn't returned yet. Women are a necessity of a mans life...if we didn't have them to take care of us or for us to fornicate with men would have killed eachother off a long time ago.

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Wasn't speaking about yours in particular - just women in general. And I'm joking (well at least partially). I love them and worship them. Raised by a single mother and treat the women in my life like queens. Irrational queens who can't make up their mind and speak a different language than men . . . .

There's an old George Carlin quote that goes something to the effect of "All women are fucking crazy. All men are fucking stupid. Half the reason women are fucking crazy is because men are stupid. The other half just comes naturally."

 

[germaine91]

Real talk right there man! Too much generalizing on forums, gotta get the information thats right for you, and only you! Germaine tried to feed me that crap too, I was thinking like "wth is this guy talking about, none of this sounds right at all"

That's why you've been PM'ing me asking for my advice......

I haven't fed you any crap. It's really easy. Here let me show you. For a natural:

Figure out maintenance calories
Subtract 10-20%
Eat 1g/lb Protein
Eat 0.45g/lb Fat
Fill remaining calories primarily with carbs but a combination of others is fine.
Try get 13-15g/1,000kcal fibre

Yes diets can be tailored but that's an individual thing. Find out whether you need a pre-workout meal or train fasted. Figure out if you respond better to high fat or high carb. But those guidelines still apply.

Look at me I can regurgitate the shit I read in books and pretend I know what I am talking about. Kid you are a typical punk looser. You haven't been on this earth long enough to have real knowledge so you quote books as a reference to give yourself some false wealth of knowledge. I wouldn't pay you to give nutritional advice to my dog. You don't know how to adapt what you have read to individuals so you clump everyone into a large group. Pretty sad life of false Impressionism if you ask me.
Oh and your lack of respect shows what a soar looser you are. Well most just a looser, but a soar one too.

Actually I never attacked anyone personally or disrespected anyone. Look at the posts. It's the opposite.

I'm not a sore loser. Why would I be? I'm not losing anything. I've provided hard evidence substantiating my claims. I've proved you wrong.

Can you regurgitate what you have read in books or in research papers? Have you actually read anything relevant of that nature?

I have kept this asshole in the dark for like three days now so I don't have to read his nonsense copy paste google bullshit

The truth hurts. None of it is copy and paste google crap. It's called research.

Thanks guys... this is the type of shit that makes me not even want to help... getting put into question when there is nothing to question but this kid is just one of those know it alls and that doesn't know shit... its more than comical...

Actually there is something to question. You still haven't been able to provide any peer reviewed research supporting your claims. I have. Don't get so offended. I'm not attacking you or your profession, just some of your information.

Kid, I have a daughter your age, I am 42 years old, been bodybuilding over 20 years, do I have a bogus (as you say) certification in nutrition...no, do I have education based on what I have researched and through trial and error...real life experience...yes. Have I competed in bodybuilding which requires strict dieting, training, and knowledge for muscle groups...yes several, and have done pretty well. Do I have an ego and go around like yourself attacking mods and respected members of this forum thinking I am the all knowing on nutrition and stating I have scientific evidence...no, my bros here know me pretty well and know the type of man I am...one who loves this lifestyle, loves helping others, and loves to compete in bodybuilding. Do you? I am a mod on this forum and so is my bro Dylan, and keep this in mind...attacking a mod is like wrestling a pig in the mud...eventually you find out the pig enjoys it. I would suggest that you pick up your ego and leave it at the door and you are welcome back in to be a humble contributor to this forum we all call home...we are not about to have some young kid come into our home and disrespect our family like you are doing...this will be considered a final friendly warning...do you hear me???

I've not been unfriendly per se, nor do I think I'm a know-it-all or claim to be. You're making assertions of me with little validity. I never attacked anyone personally, just pointed out the flaws and misconceptions with regards some of the information. I don't understand why people are getting so butt hurt.

Also, yeah real life experience is great in finding out what works best for you, but it's anecdotal evidence and not really accepted.

 

[dylangemelli]

That's why you've been PM'ing me asking for my advice......

I haven't fed you any crap. It's really easy. Here let me show you. For a natural:

Figure out maintenance calories
Subtract 10-20%
Eat 1g/lb Protein
Eat 0.45g/lb Fat
Fill remaining calories primarily with carbs but a combination of others is fine.
Try get 13-15g/1,000kcal fibre

Yes diets can be tailored but that's an individual thing. Find out whether you need a pre-workout meal or train fasted. Figure out if you respond better to high fat or high carb. But those guidelines still apply.



Actually I never attacked anyone personally or disrespected anyone. Look at the posts. It's the opposite.

I'm not a sore loser. Why would I be? I'm not losing anything. I've provided hard evidence substantiating my claims. I've proved you wrong.

Can you regurgitate what you have read in books or in research papers? Have you actually read anything relevant of that nature?



The truth hurts. None of it is copy and paste google crap. It's called research.



Actually there is something to question. You still haven't been able to provide any peer reviewed research supporting your claims. I have. Don't get so offended. I'm not attacking you or your profession, just some of your information.



I've not been unfriendly per se, nor do I think I'm a know-it-all or claim to be. You're making assertions of me with little validity. I never attacked anyone personally, just pointed out the flaws and misconceptions with regards some of the information. I don't understand why people are getting so butt hurt.

Also, yeah real life experience is great in finding out what works best for you, but it's anecdotal evidence and not really accepted.

Post pics then so we see how great your diet is and then post some client feedback and maybe some proof you make a living doing this... Lets start there...

 

[germaine91]

Post pics then so we see how great your diet is and then post some client feedback and maybe some proof you make a living doing this... Lets start there...

Why? That doesn't change anything. The information is the same regardless. The science is the same regardless. The research is the same regardless.

If it turns out I'm Jay Cutler does that mean everything I said is true?

Why don't you google what a logical fallacy is. Scroll through them. I'm sure you've used a few, including but not limited to, ad hominen.

 

[Jigga14]

Germaine I'm pretty sure Dylan just wanted to see if you have applied your knowledge to the real world. Scientific literature is great, but it is not the end all be all. only a few hundred years ago we thought the world was flat. For every study there is another study showing different results.

The question is, do you apply your knowledge and see real world results in your personal training or that of your clients? Or are you just some google happy kid in his parents basement who loves regurgitating info because he wants to look smarter than a group of seasoned bodybuilders and fitness enthusiasts?

 

[germaine91]

Germaine I'm pretty sure Dylan just wanted to see if you have applied your knowledge to the real world. Scientific literature is great, but it is not the end all be all. only a few hundred years ago we thought the world was flat. For every study there is another study showing different results.

The question is, do you apply your knowledge and see real world results in your personal training or that of your clients? Or are you just some google happy kid in his parents basement who loves regurgitating info because he wants to look smarter than a group of seasoned bodybuilders and fitness enthusiasts?

If you want a good example follow Matt Ogus on youtube.

Myself, I do apply it. I track macros daily and find it extremely easy to manipulate body composition doing so. It also is a great way to figure out what your body responds best to.

 

[goin on 4T]

What is that your are saying?
I can't read all that black.

 

[germaine91]

What is that your are saying?
I can't read all that black.

You're really mature. How old are you again?.....

 

[bigbassturd]

Just post a pic bro, we all have pics and vids up...

Stop avoiding it.

This is a callout.