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Injury Recovery Cycle - TB500, IGF-1 LR3 and low dose DECA?

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hdog911

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I have some issues I'd like to address and was wondering if you could comment. Regarding spinal ligament laxity, and muscle damage whats the best route...

I'm thinking of stacking:
TB-500
IGF-1 LR3
DECA (50-100mg/week) (is TRT required?)
Vitamin C 5-6g
L-Lysine 5-6g
L-Proline 1-3g
Multi-Vitamin
Flaxseed 3-4 tablespoons
Cissus
Flexiril (tight damaged neck muscles pull-ups following accident)
glucosamine


Some detail:
Injuries:
Spinal Sublaxation due to a car accident/ Thoracic Spine feels especially week
Extremely tight, strained damaged neck muscles resulting from doing pull-ups following the accident
Lower Body muscle strain/damage from over training
Knee Pain & Weakness due to very little rehab following ACL reconstruction, 11 years ago (seeing a PT for it currently)
These all have persisted for the last 1.5-2 years (no lifting during most this time) and are getting in the way of my Knee's PT; I'm 26.

I'm too busy to inject multiple times a day
I live with my parents, am a full-time student and work ~27 hours a week.

I'm a total health nut in most regards but I'm desperate to recover. I'm open to advice, planning to order all the gear within a week...still figuring out what to set my doses at and if I really wanna use DECA.
 
TB500
twice a week for a total of:
1mo 16mg
2mo 8mg
3mo 4mg
4mo 3mg
5mo 3mg


IGF-1
everyday starting month 2
25mcg for 40 days


DECA 150mg/week + 175mg/week TRT
month 3
every week for 4 weeks
followed by PCT

ordered from an online vet supply store (will check/comment on expiration dates and quality upon arrival)
100 x Excel 3cc 25G sterile syringes
3 X 30ml Bacteriostatic water
$23 shipped



2 X 3pk 5mg TB500
1 X 1mg IGF-1 LR3
$152 shipped
 
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yes you will need a trt dose of test with the deca and there is also no point in going 2 on 2 off with the deca.

run
1-12 test e 160mg ew
1-10 deca 100-200mg ew
plus the rest of your peptides

you will need a pct!

14-18 clomid 50 25 25 25
14-18 nolva 40 40 20 20
 
bigorse said:
yes you will need a trt dose of test with the deca and there is also no point in going 2 on 2 off with the deca.

run
1-12 test e 160mg ew
1-10 deca 100-200mg ew
plus the rest of your peptides

you will need a pct!

14-18 clomid 50 25 25 25
14-18 nolva 40 40 20 20
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^^^^

I would keep ur deca at 200mg... 100 mg is barley enough imo for recovery
 
Yes yes on Trt dose

I even think 160 test e is low if it was test p think 175 would be the lowest I would go

I would just stick with a 50/50 ratio test to deca

200test
200 deca

Keep ur estrogen in check and u should be just fine

Because the Ester attached to test e is a tad longer than test p u have to really think that at 160 a week ur gonna be around 700 ish maybe 800 if ur lucky and that's a bit to low for me when playing it safe to have enough test in ya for ur bodily functions !
 
Right on thanks. I'm gonna do some more research on DECA/TRT and PCT (probably gonna do a month cycle instead) but pulling the trigger on the peptides. One question though: What dosage+cycle of DECA wouldn't need TRT followed by PCT? and would it be at all effective?

Ordered all the shit so far the bill is $175 for all the equipment + peptides
 
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Okay so the DECA + Test is a bit pricey; I'm willing to spend $100.

$50 a vial
250g/10ml Test
300g/10ml Deca

What would the most cost efficient+effective way to use this be? should I just go all test? or should I just skip it?

Dude who is helping me out said 25/g Test and 30g Deca a week for 10 weeks no need for PCT. I don't know if it will work synergisticly with TB500 or IGF-1 LR3 but I'm gonna do some more research
 
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it is 250mg per 1ml not 10ml!

run .4ml of test monday and thursday and
.5ml of deca monday thursday.

run test 12 weeks and deca 10. start pct week 14
 
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hdog911 said:
Okay so the DECA + Test is a bit pricey; I'm willing to spend $100.

$50 a vial
250g/10ml Test
300g/10ml Deca

What would the most cost efficient+effective way to use this be? should I just go all test? or should I just skip it?

Dude who is helping me out said 25/g Test and 30g Deca a week for 10 weeks no need for PCT. I don't know if it will work synergisticly with TB500 or IGF-1 LR3 but I'm gonna do some more research
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Don't be so quick to cut corners and go cheap!! This is somthing ur injecting into ur body research top quality labs ! Don't ask for sources on here though !!


And one month deca and test won't do shit but shut yiu down!

Never run deca alone unless u don't care about sex or getting hard!
 
hdog911 said:
Okay so the DECA + Test is a bit pricey; I'm willing to spend $100.

$50 a vial
250g/10ml Test
300g/10ml Deca

What would the most cost efficient+effective way to use this be? should I just go all test? or should I just skip it?

Dude who is helping me out said 25/g Test and 30g Deca a week for 10 weeks no need for PCT. I don't know if it will work synergisticly with TB500 or IGF-1 LR3 but I'm gonna do some more research
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Idk who is helping ya but no pct after deca and test ur gonna be walkin around with a piece of spaghetti for a dick !
 
good points and for how long would my dick not work? these are just temporary side effects?

Also was told that I got the wrong info and hopefully those vials are more like 200mg/ml which would be very cost effective.

keep finding conflicting information regarding IGF-1 LR3... It's effects on the heart and gut are worrying...I don't know if its worth the health cost to run it. I am thinking the safest time to inject it would be immediately post-workout to maximize effectiveness of the dose and minimize side effects.


peptides should be here tommorow.
 
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I'm on deca now 600 mg a week test is at 200 and my dick works just fine

My prolactin is in perfect range and my estrogen is a little bit higher than it normally is but I'm keeping it that way for mood purposes and sense of well-being when my estrogens just a little bit over 32 I feel better so right now it's at 34 and I keep it there by doing .25 mg of adex every other day!

I normally keep estrogen at 23-28


So what I'm getting at is you won't have any erectile dysfunction problems if you keep your estrogen and prolactin normal ranges it's all about hormonal balance if you have a balance without your hormones it doesn't matter if you're running test low or high or what you're doing you just have to find that sweet spot to keep everything dialed in


That's why you 100% never really know anything unless you get blood work done will just be shooting in the dark going on how you feel and that's a very dangerous thing
 
Being a student Deca/Test, massages and the peptides+supplies has got me broke though.

So I need a baseline and post cycle blood test? I'll probably have the money for the post cycle blood test. I'm going to convince my parents to pay for the baseline (God bless them).. can you recommend a good link on bloodtests?

Which blood test should I request? I'm basically gonna dose 100mg of Deca/Test a week for 10 weeks along with Igf-lr3 (pre or post workout) + TB500.
 
TB-500
1-6 3.5 gram/week
7-12 1 gram/week

IGF-LR3
30mcg preworkout/ 4 weeks

1-10 150mg twice week Dec
1-12 100mg twice week Test

14-18 Clomid 50 25 25 25
14-18 Novla 40 40 20 20

5-6 grams vit C (must be ascorbic acid) per day in split doses
5-6 grams L-lysine per day in split doses
1-3 grams L-proline per day in split doses
 
Here's a quote from "Peptides - The Next Frontier in Hypertrophy" on thinksteriods:

"You’ll be getting better results by using them by injecting at this time because after mechanical loading (weight training with CONcentric and ECCentric loads), your levels of specific IGF-binding proteins (like IGFBP-4 are lower) (12). IGFBP-44 is a protein which binds to IGF-1 and inhibits its anabolic effects."

Made me rethink my dose & dosing time:
IGF-1 LR3 1 hour PW @ 50mcg (will increase if no results in 2 weeks)


MGF looks like it would have promising synergy with IGF-1 LR3...

After reading about Vit. C overuse issues I've lowered the dose to 2000mg
 
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TB-500
1-6 3.5 gram/week
7-12 1 gram/week

IGF-LR3
50mcg 1 hour PW


1-10 200mg EW Dec (M-Th split doses)
1-12 200mg EW Test (M-Th spit doses)

14-18 Clomid 50 25 25 25 ED
14-18 Novla 40 40 20 20 ED

2 grams vit C (must be ascorbic acid) per day in split doses
2 grams L-lysine per day in split doses
.5 grams L-proline per day in split doses
 
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welcome thatdudeoverthere, so far the best source I've found for info on peptides and steriods are conversations with members here and the website thinksteriods (the dude holds a degree in analytical chemistry and did further study into medicinal chemistry).
 
Mon 5/11/15 First Injections: ~100mcg IGF-LR3 and ~1.7g TB-500

Pinned, ate a huge meal, followed by warm-up, stretching, a few hip rehab drills and working on front squat technique. I have PT first thing tommorow so leaving gas in the tank for it. I'm realizing it will be hard to time IGF-LR3 1 hr. post workout due to my situation. If it's not feasible then I will take it in the evening or preworkout.


I recommend googling "Anatomy of a Syringe" - to see how to measure using a syringe. (basically measure from the bottom of the stopper). I shot up ~100mcg because I measured from the apex of the plunger/stopper rather than the bottom. It's an effective amount for anabolism but my primary goal is recovery and minimal side effects not anabolism.

Word of advice anyone messing with IGF-1 LR3 get .5cc syringes and as needles get blunted easily have an excess needle to syringe ratio (more needles than syringes). The graduation marks on a 3ml syringe are .1ml and the vial only holds 3ml BAC water so the smallest units I can measure in is 33.33mcg/(1/10ml) (1000mcg/3 ml/graduations). Also its hard to use only .1ml so I'll be using .2ml or ~67mcg per shot.
 
Feeling good this morning (after first pin) usually after even a warmup the next day I'd feel sore, neck really stiff and muscles+spine achey. Today feel more limber and fresher, only calves are tight +neck feels a bit tight+stiff ....could be placebo.. also just did great PT session, usually I'd be shaking like a leaf + wierd muscle weakness by the end but today only mild shakes and muscles feel stonger.
 
Feeling itchy all over I'm gonna wait till I order 1cc syringes to reduce dose of igf-lr3 to 25mcg and use it only preworkout....at least I know the shit works....
 
hdog911 said:
welcome thatdudeoverthere, so far the best source I've found for info on peptides and steriods are conversations with members here and the website thinksteriods (the dude holds a degree in analytical chemistry and did further study into medicinal chemistry).
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Thank you!
I Am also Aware of thinksteroids. Both that and especially this site, is rife With good information Regarding steroids and peptides. (If you Can find it ;) )
I myself Am trying to recover from a bum knee (meniscus)
And are trying to read up on all the possibilities, out there, especially peptides catches my eye .
 
What exactly is up with your miniscus? Research vit C and collogen synthesis ( also proline+lysine)..., also egg membrane for glucosamine.

I'm having an allergic reaction. I'm going to try sterile water with the tb500 next pin and see if it does the same...(itchy sensitive skin, red bumps) taking benedrly around the clock to counteract it...

Tb500 is working great though...i think it's masking any pain so I gotta be more careful about my lifts and just work on form and building a good base...
 
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5/15
Pinned 2.5 grams of TB500 mixed with sterile no preservative eyewash to check for any allergic reaction; still on anti-histamines. Immediately after pinning in my glute there was a red bump but this time on thigh no irritation....hoping its the Bacteriostatic Water that's causing the allergy.
 
hdog911 said:
What exactly is up with your miniscus? Research vit C and collogen synthesis ( also proline+lysine)..., also egg membrane for glucosamine.

I'm having an allergic reaction. I'm going to try sterile water with the tb500 next pin and see if it does the same...(itchy sensitive skin, red bumps) taking benedrly around the clock to counteract it...

Tb500 is working great though...i think it's masking any pain so I gotta be more careful about my lifts and just work on form and building a good base...
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Sounds uncomfortable !
Do you Think it is healing or only masking? Or is it to early to tell?

Damn I Would Like to try some tb500... For my research (obviously ;) )
But hard to get though customs... (DK)
And no sources got it...

My knee issues:
Some years ago I was attending army PT coach school/course and accidentally got tackled by a 90kg Heavy guy, In the hip, and my knee internally Rotated, and got a small tear, In the medial (right) meniscus.
Apparently this is not good if you are an aspiring Oly weightlifter...
Have had an op for it, but retore a small part of it, because of my job.
 
Oh I should have mentioned:

Am already taking
Proline/lysine
Omega 3
Vit c
Glucosamine sulfat,
Hydrolized collagen.

And have recieved: x5 PRP injections.
It helped... Alot!
Still unable to squat :/
 
Found out its the bacteriostatic water im allergic to (no hives or skin sensitivity this morning after last night's injection).

Tb500 is amazing thus far, felt immediately better from the first dose. I'm just catious right now as it seems too good to be. I really feel like my body is in 5x better shape. My neck felt so good I decided to deadlift alas it's a little stiff and cranky but not too bad. Spine feels good. It's anti-inflammatory properties are very strong; it also seems to work almost like a muscle relaxer but only targeting tight strained muscles. Just had my last serious test this semester should be able to focus on PT everyday now.

Since you've got a single localized injury igf des and/or tb500 might be good. Are they illegal for research in DK? PRP sounds awesome especially with hgh...
 
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Well I have come to the same conclusion:
Tb-500
With igf1-Lr3/or des

Would probably get good results.
(for lab rats)
But no :) There is no way to aquire, those substances legally In my country, not even for "research" purposes, and for reasons unknown, it is almost impossible to get via the "usual" les than honourable ways.
I guess AAS and other peps, seks more.

It is very Nice to hear about your progress!
Kinda interesting that it seems to relax the right muscle groups.
Be carefull not to train to much!
Let it heal, so you dont f... It up more ;)
 
Some of the effects this week:
There is an over all relaxing effect for sure, its very strange not to have the usual body aches after working out. I feel recovery between workouts is greatly improved for the body but CNS still needs time (I'm pretty deconditioned). My calves were always tight and problematic and legs had a strange muscle weakness but from my first dose of IGF-LR3 and TB500 that subsided greatly. My shoulder and neck are much more relaxed and the effectiveness of chin tuck, neck release stretches seems to be increased. I really like the flexibility this stuff gives my muscles; some of which before felt impossible to stretch. I feel metabolism is slightly boosted. There is marked improvement in the bio-mechanics + control of my neck and shoulders due to the relaxing effect. knee feels funky from the increased biking but no pain. spine feels slightly stronger, the disconcerting clicking + sliding feeling when floor pressing was largely absent and on the last sets was only slightly felt (much better than before). I do feel like my calf muscle miraculously healed over night. Time will tell if actual healing of my neck muscles is going on. Hives from Bacteriostatic water are all but cleared up but still itchy (especially at night; took 8 antihistamines before bed yesterday)

I ordered Hexarellin. I plan to start dosing for 1 MONTH cycle starting with 50mcg-100mcg/twice a day. I'm gonna stick with dosing it around my left knee (probably doesn't matter but just in case) top of the thigh and vastus medailis and maybe calf. After doing some reading I feel Hexarellin will be more useful for soft-tissue repair but if you think otherwise let me know. I also ordered Ipamorelin, more TB500 and IGF-1 LR3.

About to pin 5.0 grams of TB500 today to see if there are in any dosage dependent changes..
 
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Damn this is interresting!
Funky how your subjects calves Seem to get better too.
Do you Think its the antiinflammatory effect again? Or is There actual tissue improvement?
Its also kinda Nice how you Seem to be able to just order stuff ;) Would be Nice to be able to do that around here.
 
Yeah if I were to put my money on it I'd say calf muscle tissue is actually improving. It feels less rubbery/flabby than before but for sure there's some pain masking going on...
 
I guess its true what they say about soft tissue improvement and tb500 Then.
Also interesting That your subjects seems to be In the "fast improvement"
Group.
I have been Reading ALOT of There logs, and There seems to be two main groups:
those With rather fast results (antiinflammatory effects??)
And those who get a slow buildup, of effect.

(And ofc There is also the Group that gets none/ to almost no results)

Do you think it has something/much to do With your supplements/food regime?
 
hdog911 said:
Some of the effects this week:
There is an over all relaxing effect for sure, its very strange not to have the usual body aches after working out. I feel recovery between workouts is greatly improved for the body but CNS still needs time (I'm pretty deconditioned). My calves were always tight and problematic and legs had a strange muscle weakness but from my first dose of IGF-LR3 and TB500 that subsided greatly. My shoulder and neck are much more relaxed and the effectiveness of chin tuck, neck release stretches seems to be increased. I really like the flexibility this stuff gives my muscles; some of which before felt impossible to stretch. I feel metabolism is slightly boosted. There is marked improvement in the bio-mechanics + control of my neck and shoulders due to the relaxing effect. knee feels funky from the increased biking but no pain. spine feels slightly stronger, the disconcerting clicking + sliding feeling when floor pressing was largely absent and on the last sets was only slightly felt (much better than before). I do feel like my calf muscle miraculously healed over night. Time will tell if actual healing of my neck muscles is going on. Hives from Bacteriostatic water are all but cleared up but still itchy (especially at night; took 8 antihistamines before bed yesterday)

I ordered Hexarellin. I plan to start dosing for 1 MONTH cycle starting with 50mcg-100mcg/twice a day. I'm gonna stick with dosing it around my left knee (probably doesn't matter but just in case) top of the thigh and vastus medailis and maybe calf. After doing some reading I feel Hexarellin will be more useful for soft-tissue repair but if you think otherwise let me know. I also ordered Ipamorelin, more TB500 and IGF-1 LR3.

About to pin 5.0 grams of TB500 today to see if there are in any dosage dependent changes..
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It's mg's of TB500 you're doing not grams (unless your subject is a very large horse and you have very deep pockets lol).
 
thatdudeoverthere said:
I guess its true what they say about soft tissue improvement and tb500 Then.
Also interesting That your subjects seems to be In the "fast improvement"
Group.
I have been Reading ALOT of There logs, and There seems to be two main groups:
those With rather fast results (antiinflammatory effects??)
And those who get a slow buildup, of effect.

(And ofc There is also the Group that gets none/ to almost no results)

Do you think it has something/much to do With your supplements/food regime?
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I agree antiinflammotory effects are strong and almost immediate, muscle relaxing effects and there is increased cellular turnover or renewal that also improves healing time. At the same time I don't think there are any clinical trails on tb500 so kinda of risky fn' with it... don't know if long term could cause cancer so probably only use for short duration as possible
 
Yeah you better be carefull With your subject ;)
Then again: its possible to get cancer from everything nowadays. EVERYTHING!
I mean the toys I had as an 80's kid apparently contains all kinds of dangerous sjit....
 
shot up 2.5mg TB500, ~100mcg Hexarelin, ~100mcg Ipamorelin all IM

I'm sticking to a twice daily shot of 100mcg Hex and if I miss it I'll just do 200mcg in the evening. Got some good advice regarding Deca/Test probably opting for 150mg/week Deca and 200mg/week Test, gonna reduce TB500 dosage to 1mg/week after next week, and run GHRP-6 or GHRP-2 once Hex runs out and I do a month reset.

Overall I'm feeling pretty good spine feels strong (not healed) but aches a little bit (took a few days to appear) can tell I over did it by deadlifting and FSQ. Neck strain is healing very nicely, took 600mcg of Ipam last night, weird vivid dreams and woke up a bit skinnier. Taking a few days off for rest and focus on stretching, rolling and writing down my routine to keep myself in check at the gym...
 
"If it was me. I would run the TB500 for another 3 weeks at 5mg a week and then go down to 1-2mg a week. Test Cyp at 200mg a week, Deca at 100-150mg a week, GH at 2-3 iu's a day." mands from mesorx

I can't afford GH so sticking with GHRP.
GH = >$200/mo
GHRP2or6= <$45/mo
 
Also there's a body of evidence saying deca in large amounts at least will lead to weaker collogen over time due to a change in gene expression in the collogen, also that huge amounts of test is not good for collagen synthesis...hence running the lower amounts..I'm thinking a lower dose for a longer time is the way to go.

If I ever go on a cycle for fun though I'll probably opt for SARMS
 
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Yeah I'm not sure yet still researching it..I think 125/week would be a good dose but idk all that much...Test C is probably what I am going to go with and ai is armidex...only thing is gotta make sure there ain't benzyl alcohol in it...
 
Well Ive seen some articles around the net, from medscape and the Like, about Low doses, and still getting the positive effects out of it.
And ofc, as Low as possible Would probably be good.
 
Yeah low doses seem like they key to avoiding side effects but I'd rather do low , go high for couple weeks, then low again. The results I'm seeing right now are scary good. I was stupid and floor pressed at the gym and my neck is pretty tight right now. Overall though legs feel great, after 50mile bike ride they didn't cramp and only got the shakes near the end. I'm going to continue the hexarelin therapy for another month. I had a few days I went on vacation and had to skip the hex dosage but it was good; I was getting too much bloat. I'm going to reduce dosage to once a day 100mcg, in the evening and go from there. The lethargy from pinning 200mcg this morning sucks but is tolerable with some coffee, the bloat I'm getting is something I don't wanna deal with so I'm scaling back the dosage. If you got any suggestions on what to use to combat the bloat I'd like to know.
 
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Dosing schedule for next 30days:
IGF-LR3 20mcg PW
Hexarelin 100mcg ED
TB500 1.25mg EW
Ostarine 12.5mg ED

2 workouts:
Upper Rehab

Lower Rehab
Light FSQ
 
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Good to see your'e still updating this log :)

Hows ostarine Working out for you?

Also: i finally got my hands on some, tb500....
My rat is gonna try it out for this next Month. And Then we Will se what happens
 
Well Ive tried Gh Before, but my job involves alot of travelling and not being home for days, so I could Not administer gh to my... Rat, kinda put an end to that.

Im considering running igf1-Lr3 With the tb500
.... For the rat.
 
I'd put my money on igf-des being the way to go; that way you can concentrate the effects of the dosage on just your knee. Also wouldn't have to deal with any of the potential long term side effects of high dose igf-lr3 such as enlarged gut. I do wonder what the best way to inject it into your knee would be so as to get maximum cartridge growth.

I'm keeping dosage at ~20mcg 1 hour postworkout to avoid any sides. The shit is pretty powerful though. I once did 100mcg postworkout (I didn't have the proper syringes) and felt like my whole body was buzzing with activity. Even at 20 mcg I feel good, less fatigue, more limber...
 
Started Deca/Test E today
Initial dose: 150mg/150mg
Thereafter: 150mg/125mg
Plan is: 18 weeks Deca and 20 weeks Test
Waiting on some Hcg: to make sure my testes stay functioning properly. Probably dose at 100iu everyday.
 
Might have to look into that...
Although I was contemplating, Doing IA or perhaps as close as possible to kneejoint, and microdosing.
With igf1-lr3
Something Like 20-30 mcg Per Day/or when possible
I should probably mention that I used, rHGH IA, With a rather Nice result, earlier this year, before prp treatment.
It's just something I dont enjoy to do.... On test subjects, and so on and so forth ;)
 
Oh yeah: do you know if TB500 has some kind of antiinflammatory effect?
Cant remember if youve mentioned anything Like that In your earlier posts.

Did a shot of 2mg 24 hours ago...(rats)
Seems swelling ind old joints have been alting all Nice for a Whole Day! (Kinda awesome feeling)
 
Does IA=intraarticular? Yeah I guess it depends upon your schedule if you can dose igf-des 3 times a day. Yeah huge antiinflammatory effect and mild metabolism boost. Be careful cause it is very very good at masking pain. My brother remarked my arms are way more vieney I think it's the hexarelin. I can eat like a lot right now and still wake up skinny (bloating is milder). Neck isn't healing too great though, dropping the ostarine after eating a whole buncha salty seeds yesterday got the shakes not sure exactly why but I don't like the way ostarine made me feel anyway.
 
Yes IA= intraartucular.
Mmmmm so it is antiinflammatory...I guess it is Working Then.
I have begun a Rehab program for my rats knee, so as not to make things worse than they already are, and I hope, together With Thymosin, that it Will, better my situation.
Just hope to god my job Wont fuck it up further :)

Regarding the ostarine: no positive effects at all?
And are you Doing rehab together With protocol ?
 
I went to rehab for my knee and was told to just continue my stretches and the retaught me how to squat. I went almost a year ago for my neck but it seemed to only make it worst. I still have the excercise booklet and plan to just do the ones that don't aggravate it and once it feels better to go back in. I have high hopes for this deca/test cycle. I think the car accident just made me slower to heal overall. Ostarine just wasn't worth taking after getting the shakes yesterday (not sure from what). It made me have nasuea, headache and spacey feeling upon dosing and i can't say anything good about it as wasn't on it long enough. GHRP's (Hex and Ipam) are winners in my book and so is TB500 and IGF-LR3 (except for the side effect profile).
 
Hmm sounds Like you need to find a good proffesional fysio/osteo/sportsdoc og some kind.
They Can be kinda hard to find
(at least In dk)
As far as i have been able to read up on tb500 use, it seems those With the greater succes, had a really good Rehab program While on it. My theory is that it "helps" the proces along, quite abit.

Im contemplating Doing igf1-lr3 With my tb500
Did a shot today, 2mg pwo to test a theory: does it help my knee return to almost normal pwo?
Answer: yes it does.
Also did 1 mg sub Q abdomen
And 1 mg vmo close to knee.
5 hours later: no inflammation and/or achyness anywhere In my body.

So it seems alot og whats Ailing me is because of inflammation of some kind.
(Xept the meniscus crack)
 
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Update: neck feels way better, little tight from deadlifting yesterday. Yep sumo deadlifting now, and just had my last shot of test and am trying to get in a much rest as possible this week. Still got biomechanic issues but am doing light overhead movements around 25lbs each hand. I had to say the test and deca combo was great except for the personality side effects. I was running 300 of each a week sometimes more. Neck is way better but still work in progress. I'm taking mk677 as I come off the test. I didn't stick with tb500, and pinning GHRP's got old real quick. Anyone else looking to heal injuries using steroids I'd say they are great if you strained any muscles on your upper body but the cost is high bloating, mild hair loss, mood changes. Compared to not working out for a year it will be worth it as long as everything goes back to normal after pct. Shit was fun though, superhuman healing rates but not worth side effects. If I was doing it just to get jacked; I'd say not worth it. In the case you have to use it I reccomend a shorter ester and shorter cycle. That might have worked out better in my case as well.
 
Hello.
I have a question regarding TB500. You stated you had an allergic rxn due to bac water. When u changed to sterile eye wash the allergic rxn stopped. Weren't you taking igf and/ or ghrp? Did you have a rxn with the other peptides?
Reason I ask is that I had the exact same rxn to TB500. No other peptide has reacted that way. You switched from bac water with just the TB500?
 
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I'm pretty sure it's bac as I tried everything with it got rash. And then everything (igf lr3, tb500, ghrp's) without and it was fine. I ran tb500 for over a month with sterile eye wash (perservative free) and got no allergic rxn.
 
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