Why does everyone on this board thinks 500mg test is a good beginner cycle?????

[cccp]

1). Test is one of the strongest steroids out there, which means it should be saved for later cycles.

2). 500mg a week??? Beginners can gain very good at a much lower dosage than that. Plus, with later cycles you have to up the dosages to see any decent gaines, so why start with 500mg/week only to progress later on to 1-2g/week? Damn, save your money. And health.

 

[ultragainz]

bro why not just have everyone do 100mgs/wk....and fina is stronger then test..it blows test away

and did you read the post by Andy13???he did a post about rookie cycle and the amounts....and 500mgs of test is fine....

so if fina is stronger then test....you wouldnt let a rookie hit fina for a first cycle huh? LOL......if you did what would you tell them???lick the fina???or just take 25mgs eod...

 

[Suspension]

anything less than 500mg/wk is a waste of money--for most people. Thats why.

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

B/C 500mg of test is a GREAT beginner cycle.

 

[santo smith]

test sucks

 

[manny78]

500 mg of test with an anti-E such has liquidex/arimidex is safe and gives good results. No need to worry about your sex-drive. Of course for a first cycle you may have different opinions: deca/dbols, Primo/dbols, test/dbols but I still believe 500 mg is a good dosage considering sides/results ratio.

 

[OKIE]

I would have to agree with CCCP. Of course nothing applies to all people, but I think many people can get good gains from 250mg/week. I have buddies who gaind 20lbs on 250mg/week of T-200 or Aratest.

 

[bigpimp]

i dont give a shit if you are a rookie or a vet
Big dosages = Big gains
Small Dosages = Small Gains

 

[MadCow1]

If the same person can gain 15lbs. from 250mg weekly and 20 from 500mg weekly:

100% increase in dosage yields 25% increase in gains - this is diminishing returns where each successive unit of weight gain demands a greater increasing dosage to the eventual point of total saturation. (numbers are out of my head but probably close to what guys are getting)

The trick is to find the balance. Personally, everybody gets gains with 500mg if they don't they have a major problem. Only the people who have good receptors or really know how to train gain well on less.

I can't remember meeting anyone in the gyms recently that I believe knows how to train correctly. That includes a fair amount of roido boys. Before the internet, no one would hook the newbie lifter up with juice - why bother when the guy doesn't even know how to lift correctly. Now anyone can get it. I think the increased dosages are a reflection of this factor as well as the general excess in the sport of bodybuilding which is a sport (loose interpetation - maybe more of a beauty pageant as the similarities are striking) based on increasing drug dosages.

In the 50's - everybody gained of 10-15mg of dbol. This is what the guys in venice agreed to limit their dosages to as well as what the lifters in York started with. Now every first cycle needs 30mg as a kickstart.

Go figure...excuse my rant. Somday you guys will be explaining to people that no one needs 50mg of dbol and 1000 mgs of test for a first cycle.

 

[Suspension]

If the same person can gain 15lbs. from 250mg weekly and 20 from 500mg weekly:

100% increase in dosage yields 25% increase in gains - this is diminishing returns where each successive unit of weight gain demands a greater increasing dosage to the eventual point of total saturation. (numbers are out of my head but probably close to what guys are getting)

The trick is to find the balance. Personally, everybody gets gains with 500mg if they don't they have a major problem. Only the people who have good receptors or really know how to train gain well on less.

I can't remember meeting anyone in the gyms recently that I believe knows how to train correctly. That includes a fair amount of roido boys. Before the internet, no one would hook the newbie lifter up with juice - why bother when the guy doesn't even know how to lift correctly. Now anyone can get it. I think the increased dosages are a reflection of this factor as well as the general excess in the sport of bodybuilding which is a sport (loose interpetation - maybe more of a beauty pageant as the similarities are striking) based on increasing drug dosages.

In the 50's - everybody gained of 10-15mg of dbol. This is what the guys in venice agreed to limit their dosages to as well as what the lifters in York started with. Now every first cycle needs 30mg as a kickstart.

Go figure...excuse my rant. Somday you guys will be explaining to people that no one needs 50mg of dbol and 1000 mgs of test for a first cycle.

Look at the bodybuilders now compared to those in the 50's. No comparison. Thats what people are after...get as huge as possible in the shortest amount of time.