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what's hurting me?

thanks b and brothers... i know it's not the small muscle problem. my tris and delts seem to have recovered quickest. my quads on the other hand buckle when going up stairs.

baking gear, eh? i think i'll just blow some warm bubbles into the gear with a straw.

or maybe stick it out...
 
It's the prop. Prop is a c-3, bee venom is a c-2. That's why prop hurts so much. Prop is notorious for pain. I can't use it anymore.
 
Brothers!...

I'm banging 50mg of Test-P and 40mg of Tren-A ED. It's been about two weeks. Lookin good so far.

Problem is the injection pain. I'm no pussy...I've done t-400 and win in the past, but this is ridiculous. To the point where I've had to rotate my pecs, tris, delts, quads and glutes as injection sites. I've even started splitting the injection on that day (ex. half in one tri, half in the other).

The injected muscle gets so sore that it's out of commission for 4 days after.

What's doing it...the test-p or tren-a


I'll tell ya couple of things i've done in the past that has caused me greif. One was injecting to fast...it really hurt and knotted up for days and I was 4 weeks into a Test Propionate cycle so my shots weren't hurting much at all. The other time I injected while the rubbing alcohol wasn't quite dry on the injection site. I thought i'd share this with ya just in case. The other guys suggestions will like help you along better. Goodluck
 
when i inject test prop any where in my legs it hurts like a bitch. im like a 90 year ols trying to get out of bed in the morning for 3 days like you. but when i hit the shoulder i am a little sore for that day but good to go. it is def. my favorite spot.
 
It's the prop. I have tried cutting it in half with oil, didn't help. I have cut it with B12, didn't help. A lot of people say to bake the gear an it will drive off the BA, through evaporation. This just wouldn't work. If you have ever seen a still work you understand why. The alcohol will just condense on the inside of the vial and fall back into solution. If baking the gear reduces the pain from the prop it's because it's breaking down the molecule and making something other then testosterone propionate. Meaning the gear has been reduced in potency.

I think the thing to do is use a different ester of testosterone. Even if you use sus, that has prop in it and hurts a lot of people, it's still test. There is really no reason that the dosing schedule for the tren needs to match the test. ( The reason test prop has been recommended for use with tren-a is because they both have daily, or eod, injection schedules. )
 
awesome insight les boys. i'm not a fan of playing pharmacist and messing with the molecular composition of gear by "baking it". my guess is that the BA is there for a reason, no?

i pretty much have the same issue of plugging my quads vs my delts.

delts recover and are ready for more in 2 days....quads are still buckling after 3 days. i think i'll just completely avoid my quads and rotate between delts, tris, chest and glutes
 
Sounds like a bad batch! Tell the UG to clean his shiz-up!

I know prop hurts but if you get good quality it will not hurt bad.
 
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