what would you do for true love?

[Bikini Mod]

Ariel - you are solid in your last post.

I DO BELIEVE there is such a thing as love but until we get right with ourselves and figure out what is off within us that allowed us to accept poor treatment from WHOMEVER it was that claimed to love us, well I don't see how our lives will change much.

This doesn't mean that we DESERVE to be treated poorly at all, quite the contrary. When we figure out:

- what we need and what we like, we will be able to better attracted and keep it. I don't believe this is possible without some degree of living and experience. Talk about your evolutionary oxymoron!

- what is off within us that allowed us to accept poor treatment from ANYONE, but especially those that were SUPPOSED to love us we will then be able to change who it is that we attract and ALLOW to stay close to us.

- that life is about continuous change I do believe that we will either become LESS AFRAID or MORE AFRAID to *live*. I haven't figured out what circumstances or character traits separates one from another.

 

[Bikini Mod]

And Smurfy - perception IS reality; which means that it is all up to you. (that's a good thing, I think)

 

[b fold the truth]

Correct me if I am wrong (you know greek better than I do LOL) but isn't Agapi the love of all mankind? Ala Ghandi, Martin Luther King, Jr , Mother Theresa.... etc?

This is also the highest form of love and has nothing to do with the "love" between a man and a woman... unless my religion teacher from way back was drunk that day (which was a common occurance LOL).

Agapi, in Greek, is the root for the word Love. What you use before and after the Word determines exactly what it means (I love you, my love, love them, they love, etc...)

 

[housemusik83]

true love is hard to find and can be a motherfucker

 

[Bikini Mod]

True love IS very hard to find. But I disagree, it is any BUT a motherfucker. LIFE is the motherfucker. Love (which is a positive force) will help and give strength. If it's the opposite, it is anything BUT love.

 

[musclemom]

Except for my child, I walked away from everything from my previous life. I got the house because my ex pussied out (he sold his interest in the house to me for $1.00).

All I have from my previous life, basically my life from age 18 to 33, is about 20 photographs that he missed and a house I never wanted. My ex took everything, photos, electronics, money, furniture, even to the point of going through my jewelry box when I was at work and taking pieces he had given me (and that I had bought for myself, for that matter).

 

[musclemom]

And people, true love DOES exist, the fact is, not many people really want that in their lives. It's very ... open hearted. True love, by its very nature, means willingly sacrificing your own self interest. It is a relationship based upon and built out of absolute, pure trust, honesty and totally giving with an utterly open heart. In return you receive the same thing from your significant other. You can give away your heart, because your receive theirs in return. A lot of people aren't willing to trust anyone that much.

 

[Bikini Mod]

MM - again, DEAD ON...

I walked away from my first marriage, one that spanned my entire adult life (barely 21 till 34) with 5 thousand dollars, no house, no kids, no assets - nuthing. Everything I owned was in 4 suitcases. The only "thing" I had was public scorn and ridicule because everyone swore up and down that only dirty whores "abandon" their kids and "surely I must have done something pretty bad", "that all I cared about was ME."

I gave up everything because I honestly thought it was THE ONLY WAY to give my children peace.

Whether I had yielded custody or not he would have taken it regardless, time proved that out. And 8 years later I am STILL FIGHTING to save my children...

Good news is that I found a man who loves me back, the way that I love him. And he fights alongside me, every day for children that he didn't make and that he's barely even met. My husband willingly took on MY TROUBLES regardless of how hard it is, he stays... even though he knows if he walked today I would never fault him.

^^^ If that isn't love, I don't know what is.

 

[-Ariel-]

And people, true love DOES exist, the fact is, not many people really want that in their lives. It's very ... open hearted. True love, by its very nature, means willingly sacrificing your own self interest. It is a relationship based upon and built out of absolute, pure trust, honesty and totally giving with an utterly open heart. In return you receive the same thing from your significant other. You can give away your heart, because your receive theirs in return. A lot of people aren't willing to trust anyone that much.

I agree with MM, either I think wiser, usually older seasoned people attract it or earn it.. or the truly young, when they are innocent and less corrupt. More idealistic. I wanna say that so far in my own development, my highest love interest just happened to coincide with a period in my life when I was the most 'aware', less attached to shit that doesn't matter, like I am today. Now, I'm allright, however, relationship wise, I just notice, I'm not near intimate as I could be, nor would I like to be. I'm not willing to put in the sacrifices or grow up... I guess. Anyway, I the quality of my relationship is pretty good, but its not near as 'real' as MuscleMom's or BikiniMom's and I know this. I'm okay with that at only 32. My point is, the better the person, the more open, and true to what matters... as in values.. the better the relationship.
Me, I'm way, way too selfish... receive such a dynamic.
Right now, most peeps get into a relationship to escape from themselves, to entertain... thats why they fail.
I've had good relationships overall, however, I now realize that except for 1, they all fail after like 6 months due to my own selfishness, as well as hers.
Good luck.

 

[walliwalibus]

I don't try and find anything. Exception is basic needs. If it is real, it will be. That's my way of looking at it. I am not gonna search out "true love". No way. That has a way of finding its way throughout us all. Being capable to accept "true love" is a different story all together. I think you all know what I mean being you test your smarts and such and I can tell there are intelligent people here but some are superficial and expect someone to be perfect in all forms. That my friends will never happen. I don't care what people say, if you don't accept the tiny pet peeves and are willing to accept the fact that nobody in this world is perfect, "true love" will find its way to you. Its a give and take. Tak it or leave it. Gotta run, KTHXBYE