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Debaser
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What constitutes overtraining
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satchboogie
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hard for me to believe that you can grow faster by only doing 1 set per body part.
but i've heard crazier things in my time so anything is possible.
but i've heard crazier things in my time so anything is possible.
babbabuee
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well satch, I think the thing is, they're not counting the warm ups as sets. so you could do two warm up sets and two high intensity sets, but doing those three times a week so you end up with 6 high intensity reps. I think I'm going to try this for the next two months before I start my next cycle.
however, unless I see some gains, I'm going back to the old style while I'm on the juice.
however, unless I see some gains, I'm going back to the old style while I'm on the juice.
bicepts101
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great thread bros!
Very informative, lets keep this info flowing!!!!!
Very informative, lets keep this info flowing!!!!!
benevolent anarchist
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I’m jumping in here late but…
Okay you’re right but only because most people’s egos won’t allow them to increase their poundages in small increments—probably because they perceive it as being wimpy. The fact remains the same—simple progression is the only consideration that matters—whether the progression is one pound or ten. What ends up happening is rather than doing 317 pound squats with perfect form, they end up doing 325 pound squats with shitty form and that is what leads to injury. Of course some gyms don’t have the small discs. I am fortunate in that my gym has ½ pound through 5.Bulldog_10 said:
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Debaser
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Yup...most people are concerned with getting a pump and making sure they hit "all aspects" of the muscle from "every angle"...and most people are small as a result.
Who do you think is going to have bigger shoulders, the guy that does a 300 lb overhead press and 450 lb barbell rows, or the guy that hits every segment of his delts with 20 lb dumbells?
Who do you think is going to have bigger shoulders, the guy that does a 300 lb overhead press and 450 lb barbell rows, or the guy that hits every segment of his delts with 20 lb dumbells?
Bulldog_10
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Debaser said:
Ugh...this is getting rediculous. Just because you're doing more volume (at some points in the training program) doesn't mean you're doing different exercises, or not adding weight.
If simply adding weight every workout works, then why the hell are these "cruise" weeks in there? Because your body just can't handle linear overloading...Doggcrapp knows this, but he just calls his lighter weeks by a different name, and since they're "cruise" weeks, people think they're different from any other program's ligher weeks.
Again, I believe most of your programs are ok, but they seem to be based on only a few physiological principles, while ignoring many others. Sure, the good old overload principle says that if you lift heavier weights at every workout, you'll grow. But now you're ignoring your neuromuscular system...and the overtraining principle. And you're ignoring basic human nature...people can't just go on monotonously all the time...they need to mix things up, there needs to be variety in every training program. Of course there are people that can stick to the same old shit over and over again, and these people are hardcore and shit, but even they will succomb to overtraining and injury if they keep adding and adding weight linearly.
I'm not really into this argument anymore, people have their views, and people believe in different training principles...bottom line is that you gotta use what you believe in...and if you use a program you don't believe in, you will not succeed. So you follow your program, I'll follow mine. Who knows, perhaps somewhere in my studying I'll learn something that will lead me to believe in DC training...but until then I'm gonna stick with what I've learned up until now from all the experience I've gathered through my own training, reading, and in school learning this shit.
