Turinabol+ Anavar ULTIMATE STACK!

[Indy]

looks like good discussion here. rosslovesmoney has alot of good info

He does have alot of good info, and it's a great discussion, but he also has inaccurate information, I have read the studies, done the blood tests, but with that said when it comes to this, many folks here know this stuff cold and Krishna is one in this thread not to argue with on the subject, I would like to hear Ulter or Jenetic chime in, that would be case closed for everyone I think.

 

[Mavafanculo]

test is KING. I use 250mgs everyweek all year round and I am still ripped with an anti e, plus I feel great.

250 is only slightly more than replacement dose, its basically HRT

 

[Ross]

AGAIN--Let me clarify for those who insist on being closed-minded...

I Don't use TESTOSTERONE--Test is GREAT for mass, I am just unwilling to risk gyno, hairloss, or acne, because I am a MODEL.

I am also a BODYBUILDER.

We are all different, we all have different goals.

However, I strongly feel, whatever your goal, get there the safest and most EFFECTIVE way possible--not the QUICKEST way possible.

I do enjoy discourse, so let's keep the knowledge flowing.

PS, as for BEING SHUTDOWN vs SUPRESSED--there is a HUGE difference. And the study demonstrating that VAR didn't even shutdown a 14 year old boy illustrates it's relative safety. AND--as I discussed earlier, being SUPRESSED actually confers a benefit post cycle, as a REBOUND in T-levels will occur upon cessation.

 

[Little Boy]

You're a bodybuilder?

When's your next competition?

 

[Zircon]

All I know is that I'm getting really sick and tired of the necrosis that I experience from injecting UG gear that has high BA content. I have pits in the sweeps of both thighs that are about half a golfball deep when my leg is flexed. I'm not really interested in continuing on that path to "see what happens".
I am seriously considering nothing but oral cycles in the future. It will take a little more monitoring of my liver, but I think I will suffer less test flu, sore injection sites, and other bullshit.

Hey dude, I feel your pain lol. Used BD prop for 2 weeks, holy shit, it's ridiculous. You say you get necrosis? I get what's like a huge lump, for 4-5 days it feels dead and swollen (no sensation), and then it comes back. But it is bad shit either way.

 

[Zircon]

I see some good points here.

I don't know whether suppression is greater with tbol 50mg ED than testosterone 50mg ED.

What I do know is after a 2 week cycle (I do test/tren, this will change to test/dbol/tbol), 8-10 days after stopping cycle, my natural testosterone shoots up, I feel great, and I gain well.

I think a lot of different ppl will react differently to orals as well. I woul dstill be very careful of them, as there may be long term side effects that you simply are not aware of. Remember, this stuff is not well documented at all, adn we're all working in the dark, taking a chance. Some ppl have elevated values in 2-3 weeks, others are fine even after 6 weeks. But somehow I think even normal liver values, may not tell the complete story of what the oral is doing to you, imho.

 

[Whacked]

You're a bodybuilder?

When's your next competition?

C'mon man....that's not fair.

Everyone on this damn board considers himself/herself a "bodybuilder"!!

The term is obviously used loosely here as we ALL essentiallly take our training serious enough to eat right/visit and research "bodybuilding" discussion forums and educate ourselves on the use of gear! Henceforth - we label ourselves "bodybuilders". Does this mean that Jay Cutler and Ronnie and all the rest were NOT officially "bodybuilders" until they stepped on stage for the first time? So what were they then ... "weightlifters"?

You get my point I'm sure. Recreational bb'ers / professional bb'ers / amateur bb'ers ... whatever. The goal is to BUILD a BETTER BODY. Some being more accomplished and/or more effective and/or more disciplined than others...yielding a better end result.

I don't compete -- I'm still a bodybuilder too

 

[BiG n Natural]

yikes bro!!!!!

stop using that particular UG "brand"!!!!

seriously, there IS UG stuff out there that does not cause infections or necrosis...

necrosis- jesus bro stop using that shit!

whats necrosis??

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

You're a bodybuilder?

When's your next competition?

It is stuff like this that will run off yet another new member that has good, albeit contradictory to the general consensus, info for the board.

We need members who do not just parrot what everyone else says. Ross has clearly done his due dilegence. We need to be respectful of each other and learn - test or Tbol, oral or inject, are not policy arguments - some people argue over it like they were republicans and democrats, for chrissake.

We are here for info. When I did my oral cycle last March, I got a lot of heat about how I wouldn't gain anything, my liver would fall out, and all that shit. Only after my results, did some people actually started believing that if would work.

Stick around, Ross. We need different points of view here.


Bluesman

 

[Ross]

It is stuff like this that will run off yet another new member that has good, albeit contradictory to the general consensus, info for the board.

We need members who do not just parrot what everyone else says. Ross has clearly done his due dilegence. We need to be respectful of each other and learn - test or Tbol, oral or inject, are not policy arguments - some people argue over it like they were republicans and democrats, for chrissake.

We are here for info. When I did my oral cycle last March, I got a lot of heat about how I wouldn't gain anything, my liver would fall out, and all that shit. Only after my results, did some people actually started believing that if would work.

Stick around, Ross. We need different points of view here.


Bluesman

AMEN! Lol..good group of guys over here.....it's appreciated...

As for Tbol--it will never replace TESTOSTERONE as a king of mass builders, but it is definitely a potent all-around steroid with great potential and relative safety over most other compounds. For those of us who choose not to use test, tbol makes a GREAT base, as it INCREASES libido, appetite, and MOOD, and has a minimal impact on HPTA. I do have a study floating around somewhere demonstrating only minimal impact on HPTA, and the rebound effect that ocurred 5 days later* still partially in german.

The purpose of this thread not to bash test--test is king.....but there ARE alternatives--safer, and I believe, more effective (in the LONG run) alternatives. For those seeking massive gains in the shortest time possible--DBOL, Decca, Tren, and test all have their places. However, For those seeking OPTIMAL results, the safest way possible, Tbol, Primo, Var, and EQ can all be used very effectively.