Let me Clarify....
I don't use TESTOSTERONE....I am a model, so I am unwilling to risk any chance of gyno, hairloss, or acne of ANY KIND.
I am also a BODYBUILDER....
I see the use for only Anavar, Primo, Tbol, and EQ. I have had REMARKABLE results that have been, as far as I can see, PERMENENT.
For those with athletic goals, or maybe even those unwilling to risk certain side-effects based on genetics, TBOL is a BASE--and a great one.