Tren for Bulking for an Ectomorph

[ziggyziggy]

ouch on the liver - read up on r-ALA (its in glucorrell at AF store) - lots of good science that it helps the liver regenerate itself (macro can get you the links to the studies I'm sure)

Thanks bro, I already use it. I did a lot of research on it myself.

Zig

 

[Jekkyl]

I 've read lots about how tren is great for shreading up while adding some mass.

Since my battle is keeping & adding mass (I can cut on Big Macs practically), would Tren be useful for me? stacking suggestions?

also, I currnetly only have access to acetate ester. any advantage for bulking to try to get the depot or enanth version?


as to cycle history, I've done lots, but never used tren. mainly test/dbol/npp/eq/var combinations.

as a fellow ecto i also find it hard to gain BUT back in 1990 ish i started to use parablon with test and seem to gain and keep more using para than any other gear BUT that could be down to the tunnel vision i used to get when on best training ever ,i stopped the gear a few years back but have just gone back on test enth and bd tren 75 , three weeks in and thing are on the up 7lb and strenth up too BUT the night sweats are still a bitch

 

[Demonix]

I guess I hve been lucky, no really bad sides from tren yet. Night sweats but I sleep with a fan on so its not a problem.

As far as mood, I am ussually in a bad mood anyway lately thanks to the pyscobitchwhore that wrecked my life.

 

[Mavafanculo]

thanks for all the responses - I think I should at least try a bottle using the shortest ester available -

question 2: is tren dick any worse than deca dick? using dostinex + viagra when neccessary fixes the deca problem. would the same hold for tren?

 

[Prizz]

I'm not sure if Tren would help an Ectomorph put on alot of mass, but I woudl think it would add some mass.... Tren is a great drug for quality gains, ones that aren't too hard to keep either... If you wanna gain tons of mass that an Ecto will just lose after stopping, then Deca/Dbol is the way to go.... However, if you are interested in keeping your gains, I would think Tren would be a good option for an Ectomorph.... It's worth a shot at least....

As for the sides, I have prob used Tren more then any other AAS out there, and I never get any sides from it.... Other then the aggression, and lower sex drive that is.... As for the whole Kidney issue, there is no evidence to support that claim.... I don't know why guys are so focused on the Kidney issue when there are no studies to back this up.... I just take some Cranberry extract, and drink tons of water just in case it is toxic to the kidneys, but I have NEVER had brown urine or any Kidney problems I know about.... The drug is amazing in that it gives me (Endo/Mesomorphic) great LBM gains that I can keep when i come off.... To me, that is the most important thing I want from taking steroids, so Tren is the best option for me....

rizz

 

[Mavafanculo]

prizz what doses do you use and how long? what are the approximate lbm gains each cycle?

and yes, I dont want to put on all the extra water and fat, but I also want to max out whats left after getting rid of the extra water and fat from a bulking cycle. I've just been using the tried and true test/npp/dbol, and then var for cutting.

 

[Prizz]

prizz what doses do you use and how long? what are the approximate lbm gains each cycle?

and yes, I dont want to put on all the extra water and fat, but I also want to max out whats left after getting rid of the extra water and fat from a bulking cycle. I've just been using the tried and true test/npp/dbol, and then var for cutting.

My main dose is 75mg ED... I go up or down from there.... I go up as high as 150mg ED, or down to 75mg Eod.... However, results for me are gonna be different then it would for you.... I have a totally different body type then you do.... I gain muscle so easy, and also gain fat very easy.... Let me give you an example, my typical diet while trying to gain mass is a diet of 1700-2000 calories per day... Most of those calories come from Whey protein shakes, and non Saturated Fat.... On that low calorie diet, I still gain muscle like no bodies bizzness, and keep fat gain to a minimum.... I weigh 240lbs btw.... When I'm trying to cut up, I eat around 1000-1200cals per day, and do alot of cardio, and I keep muscle with no problem.... Keeping that in mind, the dosage needed for me is gonna be alot less then it would be for you to gain mass.... This is why Body type is so important when determining how much AAS youre gonna use in a cycle, and how many calories youre gonna need during a cycle.... So, it's hard to tell you how much you should start with.... I would say 75mg ED, and taper up or down from there..... Feel free to PM me for more specifics....

rizz