Tren for Bulking for an Ectomorph

[Mavafanculo]

I 've read lots about how tren is great for shreading up while adding some mass.

Since my battle is keeping & adding mass (I can cut on Big Macs practically), would Tren be useful for me? stacking suggestions?

also, I currnetly only have access to acetate ester. any advantage for bulking to try to get the depot or enanth version?


as to cycle history, I've done lots, but never used tren. mainly test/dbol/npp/eq/var combinations.

 

[sweed]

with tren u know u need progesterone aids... adding test will only benefit you... test prop/ tren ace would be a good cycle. 8 weeks will be good.. add the enanthate ester to each and go 10- 12 weeks and it will prob be better

 

[Apexx]

ARRGGG!!! You're avitar is driving me crazy. It took me ten minutes to read your post because that crazy four eyed broad kept moving around and distracting me.

If you're problem is keeping mass, I wouldn't exactly recommend tren for you. You will see lean muscle gains from it, but you'd be better off sticking with a test/deca/dbol cycle. You're just not going to see huge gains in overall mass with tren. It works great for me, but I'm at the point where I don't feel like I need to gain 20lbs per cycle.

I 've read lots about how tren is great for shreading up while adding some mass.

Since my battle is keeping & adding mass (I can cut on Big Macs practically), would Tren be useful for me? stacking suggestions?

also, I currnetly only have access to acetate ester. any advantage for bulking to try to get the depot or enanth version?


as to cycle history, I've done lots, but never used tren. mainly test/dbol/npp/eq/var combinations.

 

[Mavafanculo]

ARRGGG!!! You're avitar is driving me crazy. It took me ten minutes to read your post because that crazy four eyed broad kept moving around and distracting me.

If you're problem is keeping mass, I wouldn't exactly recommend tren for you. You will see lean muscle gains from it, but you'd be better off sticking with a test/deca/dbol cycle. You're just not going to see huge gains in overall mass with tren. It works great for me, but I'm at the point where I don't feel like I need to gain 20lbs per cycle.

bump for more input...

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

Paisan ~

I was also looking into tren, and I too would ultimately like to put on another 10-20 lbs of mass while dropping a bit of bodyfat, but the more I read about tren the more I didn't like the sides. Night sweats, irritibility, bad insomnia, libido issues, vicious headaches - and if you choose to go with the tren and don't use the acetate (ED injects) and instead go with the enth, then it will takes weeks to shake the sides if you get them bad.

I decided against it - I am going with EQ instead, and down the line may even try low dose deca (maybe 300-400mg/wk) along with test to get the mass I am looking for.

Good luck,


Bluesman

 

[promet1]

My workout partner is a classic Ecto 6'-1" when I meet him 5 yrs ago he was 165
now about 200lbs and needs to eat eat eat to maintain 200

Tren dose not help him at all with mass, even stacked with Test. He get crazy veins and gets cut but the mass and weight gains stop.

He dose best on simple stack of Test Cyp or Ent alsog with old school deca, he can add a solid 5 to 8 lbs. and if he keeps up with his eating he keeps most of his gains (due to the fact he dose not add much water at all, even on this stack....like I said a true Ecto)

 

[ryan04]

I would go with a test, deca, dbol cycle...can't go wrong with that one if you want to gain. Tren seems to do more in terms of changes in body composition rather than adding on mass.

Bluesman- I've also heard about all the terrible sides from tren but when I ran it I got NONE of them, except for agressiveness. Get some fina and see how it works out for you. Just get a little (a cart) and try it out. If you like it, get more, if you don't, no big deal and it will have costed you practically nothing.

 

[ziggyziggy]

Bro, tren has one other nasty quality in addition to what steve said. Tren is processed and deactivated by the kidneys, not the liver. Meaning that you must drink much more water in order to ensure that you don't overload the renal system while on it. If I had to choose between kidney or liver stress, I would always choose liver stress. The liver can regenerate, as I lost about a third of mine in 1993 and it is now almost back to normal size. The kidneys, alas, cannot.

Zig

 

[fbodyguy02]

I would go with a test, deca, dbol cycle...can't go wrong with that one if you want to gain. Tren seems to do more in terms of changes in body composition rather than adding on mass.
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Ryan hit this one on the head. I am also a tough gainer when it comes to mass/wieght. I will be trying the dbol/test/deca cycle this winter to bulk up.
Did a SUST/TRN cycle this summer, with great LBM and vasculatiry, but not enough mass.

GL to ya!

--FBG

 

[Mavafanculo]

Bro, tren has one other nasty quality in addition to what steve said. Tren is processed and deactivated by the kidneys, not the liver. Meaning that you must drink much more water in order to ensure that you don't overload the renal system while on it. If I had to choose between kidney or liver stress, I would always choose liver stress. The liver can regenerate, as I lost about a third of mine in 1993 and it is now almost back to normal size. The kidneys, alas, cannot.

Zig

ouch on the liver - read up on r-ALA (its in glucorrell at AF store) - lots of good science that it helps the liver regenerate itself (macro can get you the links to the studies I'm sure)