Those CRAZY dosages aren't making sence...

[swampmoose]

re

right, which @ 250mg a week is not bad in that case. i've tried that and let me tell you, it was a waste of my time. have you tried just 250mgs per week? how were your results.

 

[Nelson Montana]

satch: I wouldn't use deca or analopan. If you have enough test and primo, you're golden.

Mavy: I can't agree with the EQ -- too many weird side effects. And now there's new research that shows EQ increases RBC far more than "human" gear, which can lead to stroke, HBP or heart attack.

SAY "NO" TO VET GEAR!

Holland: If you're that prone to gyno and you can't get nolva, go for some proviron stat! If not, at least use some Calcium D Glucarate and Chrysin. Yep, it turns out Chyrsin may be the best natural OTC anti-e around but you need about 4x's the recommended dosage.

 

[SwitchedOn]

First of all I think Nelson made a great post. Next I have yet to see a newbie being recommended to use fina his first cycle, however, like DJ I don't read all the posts so it might be possible. Lastly why would you ask this question and in the same thread say you started a sust cycle without nolva? I'd rather be doing more test with nolva on hand than less without...Just an observation.

 

[Mr.Holland]

satch: I wouldn't use deca or analopan. If you have enough test and primo, you're golden.

Mavy: I can't agree with the EQ -- too many weird side effects. And now there's new research that shows EQ increases RBC far more than "human" gear, which can lead to stroke, HBP or heart attack.

SAY "NO" TO VET GEAR!

Holland: If you're that prone to gyno and you can't get nolva, go for some proviron stat! If not, at least use some Calcium D Glucarate and Chrysin. Yep, it turns out Chyrsin may be the best natural OTC anti-e around but you need about 4x's the recommended dosage.

Thanx!

Go order it right away!!

 

[Mr.Holland]

Re: re

right, which @ 250mg a week is not bad in that case. i've tried that and let me tell you, it was a waste of my time. have you tried just 250mgs per week? how were your results.

Im now at 250mg a week. Okay i started with 500mg a week.
But although i dropped the dose im still gaining weight and strenght. Ive gained now about 16 pounds... Strenght going sky high..

And what i would advise to a newbie...
week 1-8 200mg deca
week 1-8 200/250mg test
or
week 1-8 200mg deca
week 1-5 30mg Dbol (taper up and down)
keep some nolva at hand..
some postcycle stuff

thats it...

 

[Mr.Holland]

First of all I think Nelson made a great post. Next I have yet to see a newbie being recommended to use fina his first cycle, however, like DJ I don't read all the posts so it might be possible. Lastly why would you ask this question and in the same thread say you started a sust cycle without nolva? I'd rather be doing more test with nolva on hand than less without...Just an observation.

You're right about the nolva. I thought i would be fine.. onfortunately im not. Its a lesson for the coming cycles.

 

[granby140]

i think you retaint more gains when u do low doses as well

 

[Texas Ranger]

This is a pretty good thread with ALOT of valid points for starting with low to moderate doses for your first few cycles.

 

[sk*]

Yep, it turns out Chyrsin may be the best natural OTC anti-e around but you need about 4x's the recommended dosage.

There was a study on www.ast-ss.com that showed Chrysin can raise chances of gyno instead of lowering it. I can dig it up if you want.

-sk

 

[Mr.Holland]

I've got lucky!!
A friend of mine has some nolva at home..
i can have it!!

I have once used it, but that is about 4 years ago..
So i dont remember what the dosage was. Can anyone help?
..mg a day?