Those CRAZY dosages aren't making sence...

[jcp2]

The answer is simple. Most of the "experts" really don't know what they're doing. They don't know how to train and they don't know how to make the most of their cycles. But they're real good at doing lots of drugs! And THAT, is what (supposedly) makes them experts.

The ever increasing dosages become so familiar, so commonplace, so comfortable, that a cavalier attitude is developed. In an effort to convince themselves that there's nothing to fear they encourage newbies to do the same thing. It's really quite contemptable, but you can't blame them. For the most part, they're too stupid to realize how stupid they are.

You often see comparisons to what he "pros" use when in fact, they have no idea what the pros use. People defend insulin use because that's what makes the pros today so much bigger than the guys from the 60's and 70's. Meanwhile you have kids using insulin who are 185 pounds with 14% fat. After all, t's what the pros do

People destroy their thyroid because they wanted to look good on the beach for a month. It's beyond absurd.

Nobody here is a pro and only a handful compete. But the mentality is; the pros today are bigger, they take more gear, so more gear is the way to get bigger. Simple.

The truth of the matter is, nobody needs more than a gram a week. You can get HUGE on a gram a week. But just taking more drugs is easier.

And to some, they can never be big enough. Their goal is not to have a beautiful body -- you know, the kind that "men admire and women desire." They want to be a freak -- an oddity. Something that attracts attention. They also feel a bizarre sense of pride that they're willing to take insane dosages. It's sad really. There must be something tragically absent from a persons life if their main objective is to take up more space. And misery wants company. And THAT is why you see the recommened dosages that you do.



There...I said it.

I rarely post over here, but this is one of the best posts i have ever read. I really agree with this.

 

[DepressiveJuice]

i dont read alot of "newbie" posts. but the ones that i do read have been given the advice to use low doses. i dont know where people get the idea that newbies are being adviced to use insane doses. maybe in other boards but not the ones i go to. course, like i said, i dont read every post...

 

[manny78]

Just be safe. The Ronnie Coleman look is butt uggly and absurd. So taking insane doses of test/deca/dbols just doesnt make sense for 99% of us...

 

[jubei]

500mg sust/week is about the upper limit of a first cycle. My first was 250mg/week for 8 weeks when I didn't know better with no ancillaries and I kept 15lbs of muscle. For what I lacked in knowledge of AAS and ancillaries I made up for with knowledge of training and diet.

Oh, by the way good post nelson.

 

[swampmoose]

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you also have a lot of youger people on this board who dont have a clue as to what nutrition is about. "you are what you eat" is what i have always said. Nutrition should be First priority in a bodybuilders diet. but you wont find that on the anabolics board. also, i dont see anything wrong with a person incorporating dball into their first cycle. test, dball = excellent first cycle. If you are wanting to get into nutrition i would pick up any college level biochemistry book and start to read, i doubt you will be able to put the damn thing down. this book has all the real answers one need for nutrition.

 

[Mr.Holland]

I dont see anything wrong with a newbie using dbol for a 1st cycle to kickstart it as long as it is in safe doseages. I usually recommend the following almost always to newbies, unless they have certain compunds already bought to work with.
Wk 1-3
Dbol 25mgs/day
Test 250/wk
EQ 400/wk
wk4-8
Test: 250/wk
EQ: 400/wk
or this as another great newbie or anybody cycle
wk 1-8
EQ: 400/wk
Anavar: 35mg/day
If you think that these are insane dosages then well I dont know what to tell you. I think it is better and SAFER to run test 250 with EQ 400/wk, than to run test alone at 500mgs/wk.

Mavy

You dont have to take it personally...
Its just my opinion.

I dont agree with the first cycle you advise to newbie's. I wouldnt do the dbol.. The second is great imo.
That are also not insane dosages.. But sometimes i see guys advising 500mg sust- 400mg eq- 75 mf fina eod to a beginner. Thats way to much if you aks me..

 

[HighIntensity]

because 1.5 grams of EQ works better then 400.

 

[Themachine01]

Well I dont compete therefore I personally believe that I have no business messy around with extremely high dosages. I have went as high as 1g per week of test, but only once and really honestly couldnt tell that much of a difference from 750 per week.

 

[thelegacy]

i dont read alot of "newbie" posts. but the ones that i do read have been given the advice to use low doses. i dont know where people get the idea that newbies are being adviced to use insane doses. maybe in other boards but not the ones i go to. course, like i said, i dont read every post...

I agree with DEP. Juice I read some of the newbie posts and i usually never read anyone recommending them huge amounts of gear--its always 250mg test and a little eq

 

[swampmoose]

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Mr.Holland, im curious to know what would you prescribe a newbie for their first cycle and what dosage. you must atleast double your naturall test levels for decent gains imo our its a waste of time.