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This is when I get really annoyed with black people............
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So far the ONLY black people defending the kid is his mother and WTF would you expect there?
Please do some research on the disparity of prison sentence lengths between cocaine (predominately used by whites) versus crack (predominately used by blacks) then get back to me.
redsamurai
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this is only gettin started bro. The NAACP is involved, they WILL have the black folk down at the courthouse protesting if they don't get their way. I mean you do know that this is incoming right? I'm not saying it's gonna be OJ quality rioting, far from it..........but you will see people out there yelling and screaming holding up the clean cut pictures of the kid and it will seem to any uninformed bystander that this was some completely one sided interaction between the pharmacist and the dead kid. The NAACP will see to this.
You're making a whole lot of assumptions here. So far a quote has appeared in the newspaper from the NAACP and they were probably contacted by the media looking for a reaction.
If Al Sharpton flies to Oklahoma and starts his circus act then you'll have something to bitch about. Let's deal with the facts rather than some generalizations about what's going to happen.
The disparity is certainly there but it's not a fair assumption to blame it all on race. Cocaine use vs crack use breaks down along socioeconomic lines. Because crack is more prevalent among impoverished communities, there is more street crime associated with that drug.
The huge social problem that came with crack is the fact that it was the first drug that became very popular among women and created a large population of female drug addicts. This in turn left thousands of children neglected because their mothers were strung out.
In short, the effects of crack are much more harmful to society than the effects of cocaine. I believe the longer prison sentences for crack are an attempt to reign the problem in; albeit an ineffective effort.
Bikini Mod
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excellent post bro...i've often tried to make the same point but it never came across as eloquent.
looked at from afar it would be easy to label the disparity in sentencing between yayo and rock...and of course the alarmists yell bloody racism!!!
but a closer look demonstrates how much more crime potential there is with crack and crack users
great point
redsamurai
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doesn't crack come from cocaine? Aren't you basically cutting the cocaine and doing some other shit to it to make it "crack"?? And wouldn't it be more likely that people dealing in cocaine are more toward the top of the food chain in terms of how the shit gets here in the first place? Some suit that get's busted with the flake probably knows some high brow columbians or Italians that may have a hand in bringing the shit in whereas some dude on the street corner trying to sell crack in the hood is "overall" less of the problem than it is the high brow thugs trafficking the shit to the U.S in the first place.
I guess I just look at it totally differently.
The same syndicates that import cocaine also supply crack. They made the conscious decision to sell crack at a lower profit margin to target lower income customers. It's a strategy that paid off for them.
and thus we have strict kingpin laws against raw cola dealing...over a certain amount of grams and mandatory minimums...rockeller laws in NY...the boss'es don't get any mercy.
Six8
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go on liveleak.com and theres 100s of security camera shooting that can be considered unlawful. this just happened to be black kids and a white pharmacist so the media got involved and blew the story up. the world is a bunch of pussies these days and i really really wish i was born when my parents were so i didnt have to watch this shit going down every day. the way i feel right now im ashamed to say is a bit racist because these stories make it seem as if the black community wants us to kiss their ass because we (meaning possibly our great great great grandfather) oppressed their people somehow. fuck this shit
redsamurai
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well, if you're G-G-Grandfather was actually a slave owner, he didn't "kind of" oppress black people.............he outright oppressed them. He owned "humans". That being said, the time for excuses is winding down. There's a black president now and black CEO's all over the place. It's up to them to raise their children in a manner in which they can take advantage of the opportunities being afforded to them now.
SOMEHOW?
You really need to learn to express yourself better because you cannot possibly intend for that to come off as bad as it does.
Certainly blacks have things better now than at any time in our Country's past; and many of them fail to realize this yet.
But you pass off 100 years of slavery followed by 100 years treatment as 2nd class citizens (beaten and killed by whites virtually at will) as being oppressed SOMEHOW?
yeah because I didn't do shit to them, I paid for my own college, and I actually pay for things instead of stealing them. I dont owe the black community anything, and the prevailing entitlement mentality is so god damned annoying it makes me fucking crazy.
+1 for honesty
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Not to sound like a douche here but do Americans think that they invented the concept of slavery?
I don't care whether the person who is holding the gun that is pointed at me is male/female/old/young/christian/muslim/aetheist/able-bodied/handi-capped/black/white/mixed race/rocket scientist or mentally challenged bitch is going to get shot dead and I will have ZERO moral qualms about it.
I don't care whether the person who is holding the gun that is pointed at me is male/female/old/young/christian/muslim/aetheist/able-bodied/handi-capped/black/white/mixed race/rocket scientist or mentally challenged bitch is going to get shot dead and I will have ZERO moral qualms about it.
Razorguns
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Have you EVER had a gun pointed at you in life? Know how many milliseconds it takes to press the trigger? I could shoot you before you even moved your pink finger!
r
drow
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I do like the way you think BM! DAMN STR8 that is a TEXAS GIRL! Fuck ya!
Bikini Mod
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No, but I am thinkin that the pharmacist who shot that piece of shit didn't have much experience either. He seemed to do just fine.
It is not a situation that I WANT to have happen, but if it does I will be prepared.
markmark
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"If this was a white kid"! It would not be an issue here and this thread wouldn't exist.
BM
DBGgotcha!!
BM
Black kidHe got you to.
So much for the Texas Badass.
Lol, I
U BM!!!! 
Razorguns
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BM
gotcha!!
BM
He got you to.
So much for the Texas Badass.
Lol, I
Okay you're having too much fun on the internet. Don't make me go get the dogs.
r
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BM
gotcha!!
BM
He got you to.
So much for the Texas Badass.
Lol, I
LOL Did you see the target I posted from the VERY FIRST TIME I handled and fired a rifle and a handgun?
I think I'll do ok.
And as for the psychological aspect of it, other than taking a human life (which I have admittedly never done, nor do I crave to) so much has been taken from me and life has shown me so much harshness that I can honestly say that if I were put in a position where it was MY LIFE or the LIFE OF ONE WHO IS THREATENING MY LIFE - I will pull that trigger without hesitation.
I would not ever consent to own a handgun if I had a question in my mind.
We all know you unintentionally hit the target of the guy in the next booth so don't act all Charles Bronson and shit.
redsamurai
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he needs to take that one last step and admit that the charge of murder one is too far. I am not unimpressed with that admission, however.....for someone to see that the pharmacist is going to be charged with the same degree of murder that the accomplice's in the attempted armed robbery are, someone needs to step up and say that's not fair. "Praising" that charge seems a bit uncalled for under the circumstances.
Bikini Mod
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LOL It was in Kempner, Texas at the home of some dear friends of ours (she grew up on a farm so you know damned well she could shoot and he was retired army intelligence so of course he is as comfortable with firearms as is my Old Grump). It was a VERY windy Sunday afternoon. As soon as I understood how aim and how hard to squeeze the trigger so as to hold the weapon properly at the exact moment the weapon would deploy - it was on.
Ironically enough the women outshot the men both of whom spent considerable time with weapons - their lives dependent upon proper use of their weapons.
So YOU explain it to me.
I can't WAIT to shoot game and skeet.
Heaven help any motherfucker that EVER threatens my life again.
Shooting a guy lying unconscious on the ground goes far beyond self defense...just like a wife shooting her now sleeping husband because he beat her ass an hour earlier.
Battered Wife Syndrome could get her a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card.
redsamurai
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as much as I would personally condone a woman doing something like that, there's still an hour difference there. What the pharmacist did, no matter how callous it may seem to people who've never been in that situation.......while not justified completely, does not even REMOTELY justify a 1st degree murder charge. The guy shouldn't spend more than a year in jail.........and not "pound me in the ass" prison either, I'm talkin easy time where he can be with other dude's his age and play chess with em all day long. The loss of that kids life does not in any way shape or form warrant a 1st degree response from the state.
This is correct. 1st degree means "premeditated" murder. meaning the person had to have planned out the murder in some capacity. The pharmacist did not in anyway "plan" to kill someone when he woke up that morning. And the mitigating circumstances of the robbery and reasonable fear of his own life certainly dont make it murder in any way shape or form. The state should wise up and charge him with manslaughter in some form, no jury in Oklahoma is going to convict him for murder.
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How was she supposed to blow the motherfucker away when she was busy laying on the ground while he was kicking her?
You think that it is possible to "get away" from an abusive motherfucker? You tell me how to do it short of murdering the sonofabitch and I will follow your advice. So far, I've done EVERYTHING and NOTHING has worked.
Bikini Mod
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Now if this happened in the great state of Texas NO ONE would have heard about it.
"Another citizen did his civic duty when pushed to the limit and took out a low-life piece of shit."
*thunderous applause*
"And now in the news...."
I thought you cant see the kid laying on the ground, how can you establish whether he was unconscious or not?
There is no way this case goes to trial as first degree murder. The DA is probably trying to scare the pharmacist into taking a manslaughter plea.
Anyone with one eye and half an asshole can see that the pharmacist's actions were not premeditated. (I always wanted to use that phrase.)
i really doubt that.
big news anywhere, the bro fuking went back and pumped 5 more bullets into him.
that's cold, and any concealed handgun class would not agree with that tactic at all
