Thinking about HGH and Test.. any advice??

[access]

IMO, forget the HGH. If your knees are that bad at your age already then I doubt your going to see too much from the GH. IGF might be a better way to go and is less expensive. If money is not that much of an object then for sure give the GH a go but I tend to think you'll see little from it. Alternatively the Test and Deca is much more likely to provide benefit and you can run at low dose given your requirements and see improvements in lean mass and libido as well. Maybe look to add in a little EQ too.

 

[digimon7068]

IMO, forget the HGH. If your knees are that bad at your age already then I doubt your going to see too much from the GH. IGF might be a better way to go and is less expensive. If money is not that much of an object then for sure give the GH a go but I tend to think you'll see little from it. Alternatively the Test and Deca is much more likely to provide benefit and you can run at low dose given your requirements and see improvements in lean mass and libido as well. Maybe look to add in a little EQ too.

a while back i would have agreed with that. . .even if you asked me in the middle of my first 3 month go-round with 2iu's ed. . .however. . .the real results- mirror-wise -that i noted occurred over the few weeks after i began my break from it. . .i got ridiculously lean. . .i've been pretty lean in the past, but i wasn't able to retain the muscle mass that i have now. . .not even with higher doses of various substances. . .i'm a believer. . .plus i just feel "better" all the way around. . .and other than the gh, i'm only using a doctor-prescribed hrt dose of test. . .

 

[MrPowerbilt]

i've heard some pretty bad stories about fake products.. just found some pricing on some gh that seems a bit too good to be true..

 

[access]

There is no price talk allowed on this forum. You would need to go to "The Source Check".

 

[access]

a while back i would have agreed with that. . .even if you asked me in the middle of my first 3 month go-round with 2iu's ed. . .however. . .the real results- mirror-wise -that i noted occurred over the few weeks after i began my break from it. . .i got ridiculously lean. . .i've been pretty lean in the past, but i wasn't able to retain the muscle mass that i have now. . .not even with higher doses of various substances. . .i'm a believer. . .plus i just feel "better" all the way around. . .and other than the gh, i'm only using a doctor-prescribed hrt dose of test. . .

I am not doubting you on the leaness aspect as long term GH use will provide that but I was more directing my comments towards his knee issues which seemed to be his priority for GH use. Given that I don't think it would be all that great but as I said if he has the money then certainly give it a whirl.

 

[digimon7068]

I am not doubting you on the leaness aspect as long term GH use will provide that but I was more directing my comments towards his knee issues which seemed to be his priority for GH use. Given that I don't think it would be all that great but as I said if he has the money then certainly give it a whirl.

my knees are bone-on-bone. . .have been for several years now. . .they seem to work a quite a bit better now than they did a while ago. . .imho, though, the "improvement" has more to do with me getting used to the pain than any actual "improvement". . .there ain't no miracle drug for bad knees (joints). . .

 

[MrPowerbilt]

are you saying there has been no alleviation of your knee pain.. but rather you have simply gotten used to it over time?

 

[digimon7068]

are you saying there has been no alleviation of your knee pain.. but rather you have simply gotten used to it over time?

yup. . .that's what i'm saying. . .but mine are completely used up. . .up until a year ago, when the pain got to be over-bearing, i'd get a round of synvisc injections. . .they definitely work. . .but honestly, yeah, at this point, i've just kind of gotten used to it. . .i can squat 315 to 90-degrees again (used to do 505, ass to the floor) which is a significant improvement. . .however. . .like was mentioned above. . .i think you'd be pretty surprised what 150 or 200mg of deca every 14 days would do for your joints. . .that's a very mild dose, but it's enough to make everything feel a litte more buttery-smooth. . .and it's way cheap compared to gh. . .

 

[goin on 4T]

Dig glad you are feeling better. I didn't believe in the Deca either until I tried it. Something about the Test/Deca/GH combo that is amazing!

 

[MrPowerbilt]

i'm on my second round of synvisc injections (round=3 shots over the course of weeks).. it definitely helps.. but not nearly enough in my opinion.. my orthopedic told me to stay away from squats if at all possible.. leaving me relegated to the leg press machine..

talk to my doctor today.. he's going to bring me in for more blood work to check my test level.. but he's more than willing to start me on a test program.. he doesn't do gh and said he would be concerned about the pricing of it.. money is always an issue.. but i can afford it.. providing it works, of course!