the difference between bodybuilders and powerlifters

[NWinters]

the difference between me and a bb, i dont really care about looks.

 

[casualbb]

You're comparing the mechanisms of anabolics to those of creatine?

Only in reponse to louden's claim that (paraphrase) "steroids are just a tool...they raise protein synthesis." Well, yeah. But so does creatine. I only brought it up to show how much more steroids does for you than mere protein synthesis by comparing its effects to creatine, which I'm sure we've all used at some point.

And these things cause massive muscles?

Yep. It not only greatly enhances growth, but the infusion of extra testosterone allows the long-term support of muscle far above the body's genetic limit.

Just add gear and *poof* instant-pro! ....uh, nope

Well no, you have to have the body type for that. But no matter what stage you're at (unless you're already pumping 1g of test/week) starting or raising a test dose will grow your muscles far and above what you'd normally expect.

I've done three solid cycles in the past. I haven't touched them for over 2 years now. Am I shaking violently and drooling over a picture of test?

Good for you then, you have self-control. But you're just an anecdote. Go on the anabolic board sometime. 90% of the posts are "how's this cycle look?" or "I'm having this steroid-related issue. How to address?" I mean jeez, lots of those guys need roids just to cut up for the summer. You can't say it's not psychologically addictive.

 

[casualbb]

btw vinyl thanks for backing me up

 

[vinylgroover]

To say that steroids is not a magic pill is just ridicilous. It allows the person to push themselves to new horizons as opposed to a natural person.

Exactly. It's ridiculous and i get bored of arguing the point with steroid users who downplay their significance.

If they are not a magic pill and the benefits are not so pronounced, then why the hell do half the people on these boards spend half their pay packet on the stuff and are willing to risk possible heath consequences..............all that for half an inch of muscle?......yeah right.

 

[sk*]

Well let me pose another question then. In all these muscle mags, you see "so-and-so's leg routine, guaranteed to put inches on your quads!" Tons of regular joes do the exercise and gain nothing. Now assuming that the magazine isn't lying about the routine...

Is a routine really "good" if it only works for one individual? I don't think so. Sure they can add volume if they're juicing (more on that in a sec), but the basic fundamentals should be applicable to anybody. As for guys who have trainers, good for them. I'm not saying trainers don't know how to train for growth, although some don't. I'd want to see each guy's credentials before I trusted him.

1) Those magazines also tell you to buy bug-juice as it is guaranteed to make you big.

2) Noone ever talked about efficient routines for everyone, the point was for themselves. You were bashing the way they do things and not the routine for overall people.

-sk

 

[sk*]

I'm almost done rambling, I promise.

One of the pervading mentality on this boards is "everybody is an individual! You have to experiment to see what kind of routine will work for you." That's true, but NOT NEARLY to the extent that most people believe.

Each person is NOT a completely new system to be considered, with a grab-bag of techniques to be tried. The same principles of growth apply to everybody.

We're all homo sapiens. The way each person works is 99.9999% similar to the next. If it weren't this way, there would be no field of medicine, because how would you know which drug to prescribe, which tests to conduct, what surgery to approve?

The science of strength training finally took hold with programs such as WSB and others. It's time for the science of growth to finally penetrate the world of bodybuilding and give us real-world gains on par with those made in the lab.

True, but IMO you need different types of routines at different stages of your lifting carrear.

Do you honestly think ronnie would grow if he did whatever you do?

-sk

 

[sk*]

BTW, AAS won't do much if you don't know how to train or eat. However, they will help you pack on a good amount of muscle and strength if you know what you are doing.

-sk

 

[louden_swain]

BTW, AAS won't do much if you don't know how to train or eat. However, they will help you pack on a good amount of muscle and strength if you know what you are doing.

-sk

Exactly,

And thats why people who have never used them should keep their mouths shut. What you read or what you see does not make up for actual experience.

 

[sk*]

Oh yea, about the add 500mg comment to grow more:

Ever hear of diminishing returns? The body can only handle a certain amounts of steroids before it goes to waste.

-sk

 

[sk*]

Exactly,

And thats why people who have never used them should keep their mouths shut. What you read or what you see does not make up for actual experience.

Yea, it's getting a bit riddiculous. My buddy actually thought you take steroids and, literally, the next day you become big. The media has screwed up peoples' perceptions a good bit.

-sk