Sprinter look!

[gettinlarger]

since everyone is flying way off the topic of 'sprinter look,' i figure id ask a question ... im having a hell of a hard time gaining weight. a buddy of mine suggested i up my carb intake. that sounds very logical, because when i think about it, i get good protein ... but not too too many carbs. ive also read that when at a plateau, you should up the carbs ...

 

[coolcolj]

Your talking about time , not effort.

Its very easy to go to the gym and pump iron, muscles get big from that, I enjoy going to the gym. In fact I wish I could go more often, but I would overtrain. I like training intense, its not like I'm forcing myself to be there.

but it takes a hell a lot more discipline to shred up. I do have to force myself to eat right to get lean. Its so easy to pigout on some junk food.

Everytime I train, the next day the muscle get slightly bigger, its noticable, and the next time I'm at the gym I'm stronger too, as long as I'm not overtraining. Sure it takes a while, but its just a matter of time. If you don't enjoy it, why are you doing it?

Now losing fat is much less predictable. Its not just a matter of cutting calories and doing HITT. If it were, there would be a lot more shredded folks walking around. In fact bulked up dudes outnumber lean guys by a factor of 99 to 1

I'm getting stronger, bigger, leaner and jumping higher everyday doing it my way. That's all that counts to me. If my vertical jump, speed and Basketball performance goes down from bulking up that means I've failed. Bodybuilders and athletes who don't need to propel their own bodies around can bulk all they want, but to me bulking up is just adding on useless fat!
I've bulked in past in my mid 20s, I do not get any bigger or stronger faster. 5% increase in strength per week is about the most I got then, and its the same now.

Fat does not flex

Do I want to get bigger? Yes if my performance, flexibility and range of motion is not compromised. And I'm achieving that just fine.
But HUGE ? NO. I don't see huge guys being like Mike or capable of being slippery, or not looking like an ass. I'm training for relative strength, to be able to run faster and jump higher than I have ever had before. I can't see some some of these bodybuilders running rings around me or dunking on me

I think I've done very well for 6 months training especially since the first 3 months were just spent getting into the groove, just give me another 6 months and I bet I gain more than most people bulking up. I'm on a roll now, just watch me. And I will be able to boast a 44+ inch vertical jump which the fat guys won't and all at 31 years old and natural. I'll post some before and after pics in 6 months time and mpegs of me touching the top of the small square on a basketball ring

 

[b fold the truth]

I really do hope that you get all that you wish. Your statement about how it is easier to build muscle than it is to lose fat is still incorect. If it were easier to build muscle than to burn fat...you would see a lot more 300 pound monster roaming the earth.

For your sport, you are doing good but remember that you are training for basketball and not bodybuilding. If you don't want to get big because it may hinder your athletic performance...that is cool and I understand that. At 285 pounds I can still do some pretty freaky flips though...and still grab the rim on a 10 foot goal easily. I can also still do the splits.

If you want to say that because someone may have a weak mind it is harder to cut...then that is ok. But if they are mentally tough enough...dieting is much easier than building muscle. Lots of people walk on stage ripped...but they are still skinny.

B True

 

[coolcolj]

They probably lost the muscle to get ripped, which is not the case if they did it together

Aren't all those guys on roids anyway? So whats the problem?

 

[b fold the truth]

They probably lost the muscle to get ripped, which is not the case if they did it together

Aren't all those guys on roids anyway? So whats the problem?

Can you explain what you just posted? I am not understanding what you are trying to say.

Sent cha some karma too...

Thanks

B True

 

[coolcolj]

All I was saying that aren't roids supposed to help one hold onto muscle when you rip up? So why are they skinny?

I think it works both ways. Some people have trouble gaining muscle, some people have trouble getting ripped. The rest of us are somewhere in between. I kinda lean towards the gain muscle easier side, but can still lose fat with slightly more effort.
For that reason I tend to workout for a short period of time and then lose interest - but this time I'm gonna stick at it for the long haul

Karma for what?

I'm gonna give you some karma too because your a cool guy!

BTW to answer NeedHelp's question, you should avoid eating within 2 hours of going to bed. You want the insulin levels on the low side so GH release will be larger when you enter deep REM sleep. I find this is when I lose the most fat.

Well if you wanna bulk up do a good job of it.. Serge Reding
5' 8" ... with a 1+ metre vertical leap - scary.... if it can help me jump 4 feet into the air, I'm willing to get my legs like his, I have the genetics for that type of leg


at 23 1965

1971 303lbs

1974 315lbs

 

[Needhelp]

Well, athletic performance isn't my main goal.. If I bulked to 190, and i'm ~12-15% Bf now, how much weight @ 190 would I have to lose to get under 6%?

 

[coolcolj]

well say 15 % Bf at 190 that 28.5 lbs of fat

to get to 6 % you would need to lose about 16 lbs of fat or so.

but if you bulked up your final bodyfat percentage is the determining factor. You'd be surprised how much fat you have to lose to get to 6% after a bulk up.

I wouldn't worry about the weight, look at your waist measurement

 

[Needhelp]

I think im gonna bulk to 180, then cut down the BF under 10%, then bulk up to 210, and cut down under 6% BF..

So, i'll probably be around 13% BF @ 210, right? Then, I cut down from that to around 190 @ 6% BF?

A friend of mine gained about 20lbs with only adding 3% BF in 5 months, is that typical for a beginner?
3500 calories/day

 

[Needhelp]

How fast do you think I can reach 180lbs, without increasing the BF too much? Then, how long do you think it'll take to get the BF lower than 10%?

For my goals, do you think what i'm doing is good? If not, what should I do?