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speaking about chest....

Mike P.T. said:


You mean the serratus/rib cage area not the obliques. As well it is also a good lat exercise and some(myself included) use it for this purpose rather than for chest.(although back in the day I did do it for chest)

Yes, my bad!
 
Pull-overs hit the pectoralis minor which lays under the pectoralis major that you can see. They do work nicely if you superset them with incline dumbbell presses. For 4 weeks perform that superset, then switch to low- incline flyes and incline dumbbell presses supersetted together.....it has worked well for me.
 
I'm always seeing this dumbbell evangelism for chest building so I'm curious how you guys deal with hoisting up the big boys in order to do a set. I'm a big fan of using dumbbells with just a slight incline (easier on the back) for shoulder presses, but inorder to hit the chest, I'd have to through around so pretty large bells. Alot of the injuries I've witnessed in the gym over the last couple of years have been linked directly through dumbbell usage. You name it, I've seen it: strained/torn pectoral muscles, damaged rotator cuffs, separated ac joints, elbow degeneration, etc. While the muscle injuries can be attributed to over emphasizing range of motion, most of the other orthopaedic injuries occuring when hoisting the dumbbells into position or carlessly discarding them after a set unto a rubber mat. I know alot of oldtimers swore by the dumbbell back in the day, so I'm really curious on what you guys do to keep playing with the big bells without getting hurt.
 
icelandic said:
I'm always seeing this dumbbell evangelism for chest building so I'm curious how you guys deal with hoisting up the big boys in order to do a set. I'm a big fan of using dumbbells with just a slight incline (easier on the back) for shoulder presses, but inorder to hit the chest, I'd have to through around so pretty large bells. Alot of the injuries I've witnessed in the gym over the last couple of years have been linked directly through dumbbell usage. You name it, I've seen it: strained/torn pectoral muscles, damaged rotator cuffs, separated ac joints, elbow degeneration, etc. While the muscle injuries can be attributed to over emphasizing range of motion, most of the other orthopaedic injuries occuring when hoisting the dumbbells into position or carlessly discarding them after a set unto a rubber mat. I know alot of oldtimers swore by the dumbbell back in the day, so I'm really curious on what you guys do to keep playing with the big bells without getting hurt.

Yes, with heavy dumbells it's easier to injure yourself if you have shitty form. I fucked up my right RC pretty badly and it still kills me when I do any exercise involving my shoulders. But with a spotter you don't need to jerk your shoulders to get the DB's up for the press. If you're lifting heavy enough weights that you are risking injury to get them in place, get someone to help you. Humbling yourself is nowhere near as bad as the injury you'll get from having a big head.

As for the benefits, my chest sucked until I moved almost entirely to DB presses. The squeeze at the top is great and I can feel my chest's role a lot better with the DB's. With the bar I felt like I was working more delt's and tri's.
 
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