Someone explain the thing about "well trained" people burning a higher % of Fat v. Carbs during the day

[bran987]

I recently read that during the day just sitting around, a normal person burns about 50% fat calories vs. 50% carb calories, but a "well trained" individual can burn up to 70% fat calories and therefore 30% carb calories while at rest.

I already know more muscle = more calories in general burned during the day so that's not what I'm talking about.

My question is if anyone knows what "well trained" means or if anyone can explain that 50%/50% vs. 70%/30% concept further?

I've been working out with weights 4x/week for ~45 minutes and my heart rate is pretty high the entire time, and I was doing sprints on off days but they have been hurting my shoulder. I was going to just drop cardio altogether but if being in shape cardiovascularly will really help me burn that much more fat just during the day that might be enough to get me out of bed and jog a couple miles for 15 minutes each morning before breakfast.

Do you think the 45 minutes of weights 4x/week puts me in shape i.e. "well trained" cardio wise? Or would cardio be the best way to get the benefits of higher metabolic efficiency?

Thank you, homies..

 

[eat big]

Re: Someone explain the thing about "well trained" people burning a higher % of Fat v

Do you think the 45 minutes of weights 4x/week puts me in shape i.e. "well trained" cardio wise? Or would cardio be the best way to get the benefits of higher metabolic efficiency?.

Depends. If you lift with high intensity and don't do pussy isolational movements then you will get more of a workout than most lifting. Squats and Deads get my BP going harder and faster than any type of cardio though. But at the same time, cardio is better than weights. What's my point? Compound movements will give you the best cardiovascular workout using weights but cardio is sometimes a better option for muscle recovery, burning calories and health. In the long run, cardio is better.

 

[bran987]

Re: Someone explain the thing about "well trained" people burning a higher % of Fat v

Depends. If you lift with high intensity and don't do pussy isolational movements then you will get more of a workout than most lifting. Squats and Deads get my BP going harder and faster than any type of cardio though. But at the same time, cardio is better than weights. What's my point? Compound movements will give you the best cardiovascular workout using weights but cardio is sometimes a better option for muscle recovery, burning calories and health. In the long run, cardio is better.

I center all my workouts around the big compound movements and moving up in weights/rep each week on those exercises. Interesting you say cardio is better in the long run.

 

[eat big]

Re: Someone explain the thing about "well trained" people burning a higher % of Fat v

I center all my workouts around the big compound movements and moving up in weights/rep each week on those exercises. Interesting you say cardio is better in the long run.

I believe it is. Are you on 5x5? But what I mean is sure, compound movements can get you going big time with a small break in between sets. But I think cardio is better over a period of time in terms of conditioning.

 

[bran987]

Re: Someone explain the thing about "well trained" people burning a higher % of Fat v

I believe it is. Are you on 5x5? But what I mean is sure, compound movements can get you going big time with a small break in between sets. But I think cardio is better over a period of time in terms of conditioning.

Note 5x5, but I have been on that before and what I'm doing really isn't that much different.

Anyway, I agree with you that cardio is better for conditioning, but I was wondering if you actually burn more fat cals as a %age of total cals burned while at rest during the day if you are in better cardio shape.

 

[seizer]

Re: Someone explain the thing about "well trained" people burning a higher % of Fat v

shut up and lift!








...i saw that on t-shirt once.

 

[eat big]

Re: Someone explain the thing about "well trained" people burning a higher % of Fat v

Note 5x5, but I have been on that before and what I'm doing really isn't that much different.

Anyway, I agree with you that cardio is better for conditioning, but I was wondering if you actually burn more fat cals as a %age of total cals burned while at rest during the day if you are in better cardio shape.

Read this. Didn't feel like re-typing it. It should help.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=487741

 

[bran987]

Re: Someone explain the thing about "well trained" people burning a higher % of Fat v

Read this. Didn't feel like re-typing it. It should help.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=487741

hmm.. that says 80% of all this is genetic. if 80% of it is purely genetic, I think training with weights vs. cardio won't make that big of a difference.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

ive never heard of this before, but for arguments sake:

at higher training intensities, more of the energy you burn comes from carbs. therefore a more highly trained person will have more periods during the day where they will be (relatively) carb depleted, and have no choice but to utilise fat for energy, since they destroyed their carb reserves during exercise and are left with nothign but fat and protein to burn.

also, those who train very intensely have been shown to have elevated overall metabolism for an hour or so after they stop training (aka "afterburn" aka "carry on lipolysis") meaning that not only do they burn more energy total, but after intense exercise, youre relatively carb depleted, and so the extra energy used must therefore come from fat and protein stores.

theres a workable explanation, anyway

ps...your nose wiggles when you type