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So how mad should I be?

you should be mad as hell...however, you should also do the best you can with the situation that you're in...and, above all else, you should do the best that you can to make sure that your kid is safe and properly cared for...keep your anger within the boundries of the law (you end up in trouble? then what happens to your kid?) and, don't sink to the other person's level (someone has to find the moral, higher ground for the kid's sake)...then, after the kid is all growed up and self-sufficient, KILL EVERYONE!!!!!!! :evil:
 
I think you have grounds to do something. If that had been child protective services that walked in the door last night and not you, you would have lost your child, at least temporarily. She was clearly put at risk and the whole light bulb thing is just strange but also puts a child at risk, as you found out last night when you were trying to help her. I think it's good you got there when you did and yes, I'd be furious if I was you. (I used to investigate child abuse allegations).

I would start looking at what Utah's courts are like. Do you a lot of people go through the system without attorneys? Most family court systems would have some provisions for that. It makes it more official because if you really start fighting and things get ugly, you don't have anything to back you up legally. That being said, since there isn't anything legal, you can make the choice to withhold access and put it on her to take you to court. I'd be sure to be writing down all of this somewhere and date it too.

The other thing I'd suggest to you is to keep yourself in check when it comes to the other man, in fact, I wouldn't even bring him up if you end up in a court like situation. Places like here....vent away. I wouldn't want my kid around him either but threatening him, if you do end up in court, will work against you. Keep it clean, no matter how much it kills you. Sadly, I've seen many good dad's get screwed in court if the woman decides to go on a witch hunt. So don't give her any ammunition. She's clearly making very poor decisions and you just have find the best strategy to protect your daughter and yourself.

I document everything. I have a planner and just write the time she picks her up and the time I pick her up. I also make notes of any conversations regarding my daughter. I've never threatened the guy directly and have only hinted at it to her. I do have some cop friends and they've pretty much told me how far I can go with things and be within my rights. One time the ex said she'd just go for full custody because she's a mom in Utah and I just laughed in her face asking if that was the hand she wanted to play. I told her that was fine and that I'd become homeboy's wife's best friend during their divorce and would help her lay the wood to him in any way I could. Since then he hasn't been around my kid, but she's been absent more and more.

I really do think kids need both parents, but fuck, the parents need to act like parents. Amirite/
 
you should be mad as hell...however, you should also do the best you can with the situation that you're in...and, above all else, you should do the best that you can to make sure that your kid is safe and properly cared for...keep your anger within the boundries of the law (you end up in trouble? then what happens to your kid?) and, don't sink to the other person's level (someone has to find the moral, higher ground for the kid's sake)...then, after the kid is all growed up and self-sufficient, KILL EVERYONE!!!!!!! :evil:

I did feel bad this morning when she said "daddy, you yelled at mommy". I guess she heard part of the conversation even though I had her in the front room and I was in my bedroom when I was talking to the thundercunt.
 
I document everything. I have a planner and just write the time she picks her up and the time I pick her up. I also make notes of any conversations regarding my daughter. I've never threatened the guy directly and have only hinted at it to her. I do have some cop friends and they've pretty much told me how far I can go with things and be within my rights. One time the ex said she'd just go for full custody because she's a mom in Utah and I just laughed in her face asking if that was the hand she wanted to play. I told her that was fine and that I'd become homeboy's wife's best friend during their divorce and would help her lay the wood to him in any way I could. Since then he hasn't been around my kid, but she's been absent more and more.

I really do think kids need both parents, but fuck, the parents need to act like parents. Amirite/

of course you're right. it just doesn't always work the way it should.
Also, I wouldn't talk to Q about what a piece of shit mother she has. She won't understand. It only confuse her more.
 
I did feel bad this morning when she said "daddy, you yelled at mommy". I guess she heard part of the conversation even though I had her in the front room and I was in my bedroom when I was talking to the thundercunt.

didn't see this. you have to try to explain.

i just meant to try and keep her out of it as much as you possibly can.
 
of course you're right. it just doesn't always work the way it should.
Also, I wouldn't talk to Q about what a piece of shit mother she has. She won't understand. It only confuse her more.

I do everything I can to keep her from any negative conversations the ex and I have. I never say anything bad about her mom to her. Well, last night she kept asking if mommy was working and i said no, mommy left you. Shouldn't have done that.
 
I do everything I can to keep her from any negative conversations the ex and I have. I never say anything bad about her mom to her. Well, last night she kept asking if mommy was working and i said no, mommy left you. Shouldn't have done that.

probably not but in the heat of the moment shit always comes out.

I'd try to tell her that you were worried about her. I'm sure she can understands that and already knows that and feels safe with you.
You're doing a good job with this shitty situation.
 
I did feel bad this morning when she said "daddy, you yelled at mommy". I guess she heard part of the conversation even though I had her in the front room and I was in my bedroom when I was talking to the thundercunt.

that's exactly what i'm talking about...if everything you've said is true (and i believe you completely), then, trust me, you be cool, you win in the end...kids aren't stupid...they know who takes care of them...and they know who really loves them...mommy is digging her own grave with regard to the kid.

the really sad thing?? no matter who wins, there are no real winners...everyone is losing something in varying degrees.
 
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