changing subject because I have a funny to tell you all:
lolol
Jeff is installing a dog door. He ran into a problem of some kind using the sawzall (or however it's spelled) and went outside for a few. I hear the chain saw start up and he came inside and cut a hole in the wall with it.
There's dust and smoke everywhere and it set the smoke alarms off. LOL!!
Chainsaw massacre in my house right now.