Ross and other "experts"

[jcdc71]

what are your thoughts on the importance of a post work out shake, the importance of feeding the muscle while it is in its catabolic state, and the benefits of the 5x5 routine over isolation exercises. Which is the overall better one, to stay with year round, best results? Just some debates that were going on in the weight lifting forum

Bro I would take the shake p.w.o. if you want to look "PROPORTIONAL"
but avoid it if you want to look "PORPORTIONAL"

 

[get456]

Beginner or powerlifter routine.

LOL

maybe some research would help you understand it a bit better.

Getting stronger is a benefit to EVERYONE... and Im sorry but the typical "BB'er" routine will NOT result in continued, substantial strength gains over time... Very easy to explain why, our body doesnt work that way. We NEED periodization, that is the definition of a "plateau", it is the lack of periodization and planned overtraining.

Spend a few hours reading EVERY link in madcow's 5x5 thread and come back and tell me its "ONLY" for beginners or powerlifters.

 

[BLAZAY]

lol

 

[Tatyana]

LOL

maybe some research would help you understand it a bit better.

Getting stronger is a benefit to EVERYONE... and Im sorry but the typical "BB'er" routine will NOT result in continued, substantial strength gains over time... Very easy to explain why, our body doesnt work that way. We NEED periodization, that is the definition of a "plateau", it is the lack of periodization and planned overtraining.

Spend a few hours reading EVERY link in madcow's 5x5 thread and come back and tell me its "ONLY" for beginners or powerlifters.

I haven't read any of his stuff, would you post the link?

I have nothing against strength training, it does depend on your goals, and I have made my training exclusively a strength training phase at times.

I think that reps higher than 5 work better for most people to get hypertrophy.

 

[Porportional]

i totally agree tat, a 5x5 to me is either a powerlifting routine which's goal is to bulk and get stronger (as in add weight, and strength)... or a beginner routine to get into lifting, because a 5x5 can become to easy over time, as stated here, by some people. It is not a good year-round thing to do for me at all, maybe 6-8 week routine. 5x5 to me wont gain you muscle and hypertrophy, but it will give you mass, weight and bloat. There are living examples of this, you dont see the kids who are 180 benching in the 500-700 range try to add weight to gain the strength.

 

[Porportional]

wow 8, your not even a mod and you bombed me.. thats takin this a lil to seriously, dont ya think?

 

[Tweakle]

if you don't add 'muscle and hypertrophy' with heavy low rep training then what is this 'mass and weight' of which you speak?

you dont see the kids who are 180 benching in the 500-700 range

A 500-700lb bench at 180? You're right, you don't see those kids because they don't exist.

 

[chazk]

if you don't add 'muscle and hypertrophy' with heavy low rep training then what is this 'mass and weight' of which you speak?




A 500-700lb bench at 180? You're right, you don't see those kids because they don't exist.

If I rember correct eddie robinson weighed 190 when he pressed 525 for a state record. back in 1985

 

[dbcooper]

Great question my friend, I am glad you are seeking further clarification. As a bodybuilder, LEARNING is just as important as EATING.

FOOD is the substrate for MUSCLES and INFORMATION is the substrate for LEARNING. Just like consuming the wrong FOOD is counterproductive and detrimental to one's progress, so too is consuming the WRONG INFORMATION! Therefore, it is absolutely imperative that you double check your sources, especially on the good ol' NET.

As for your question:

The single most important tasks after your workout are:

• Replenish Glyogen
• Increase Protein Synthesis
• Reduce Cortisol Response

A PWO shake is the single most effective method for accomplishing all of those tasks at once. Furthermore, a drink will be absorbed much faster, demonstrating superior biological value over whole food.

If you have any other questions, don't hesitate--KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

if u dont "flood" the muscles in the "anabolic wondow" ur plain dumb, (but most people are) i bring mine with me and fill it with water pwo and slam it NO-BRAINER

 

[needtogetaas]

wow 8, your not even a mod and you bombed me.. thats takin this a lil to seriously, dont ya think?

He is a elite mentor and doing a good job for this board. We stick together to make this board what it is. I will thank you to get the fuck in line, or I can just send you packing. Got it!!!!