roids and genetics

[Steve The Bluesman]

YES, you can. You can alter genetics generation after generation. Examples, simple. This is something old. When you see a fat woman in her 50's with her hot daughter in her 20's, there's no doubt that girl will be the same as her mom in their 50's. Why? She is genetically ready to get fat easier than other girls. The same at the inverse. When you have an athletic dad and an athletic mom, their sons will be genetically ready to be fit and athletic.

We have other factors like nutrition and excercise. But that's just a complement to genetics. In fact, people that inherit slow metabolism from slow metabolism parents (due to a long chain of bad nutrition habits in their ancestors) have to make double efforts to be fit in these days.

This is an excellent point, but enviroment can also be claimed as the reason. In your examples, wouldn't it be more likely for the two fit parents to raise a fit child by teaching good eating habits and the benefits and fun of sports and exersize? On on the other side, the 50 year old whale mother will not have much to offer the 20 year old except chocolate and donuts, hence the vicious cycle of fat chicks.

In reality, I think it is a little of both - but it takes work to get out of either cycle.

Bluesman

 

[mrplunkey]

You can't alter your genetics with gear.

If you are in good shape as a parent, chances are your kids will want to be "like you" and will be the same way. If some kid grows up watching his dad bang out 315 on the bench, he's not going to rush to the local legwarmers & headband gym and get excited over doing 135 himself.

 

[Makavelli]

Yep, nature vs nurture. You can't change your genes or your kids genes through steroids. However, that's nature. If you use steroids, obviously you're much more likely to be in good physical shape and have healthier habits, and THAT you CAN pass on to your kids. So in that respect, yes your kids would be more likely to be in better shape, however it still has nothing to do with their genetics or steroids directly, it's simply a change in their lifestyle, or nurture.

I agree. You can't alter genetics with AAS.

 

[badslinky]

No, not at all. You can't alter you DNA through use of steroids. .

Actually my biochemistry professor begs to differ. He said that steroids cause the DNA to be replicated incredibly more than usually to produce proteins which would increase errors significantly. One that would be bad if it happened alot would be frame-shift mutations.

 

[toxicsambo]

If the pregnant female takes steroids, then she will alter the development of the fetus. But I don't see any evidence proving genetics can be altered. Unless she walks through Chernobyl and the child is born into "RADIOACTIVE-MAN!!!!"

 

[badslinky]

Well Sambo a mutagen is considered anything that interacts with DNA. Some mutagens are ciggerette smoke, alcohol, and STEROIDS. If a mutation changes the
sequence of DNA in a gene, then the mRNA and protein made from that gene will be
different than it was before the mutation. Most mutations are harmful and lead to the
synthesis of abnormal or non-functional proteins which could cause cell death or cancer.
Its unlikely to happen but there is a 1 in a million chance it could.

 

[Gastroc O'Jenkins]

AAS? No. But I would think in the future with gene therapy that we'll be able to make ourselves healthier (or bigger) and that genetic makeup would be passed down...

 

[badslinky]

When I find my biochemistry book I will try to have more scientific proof. Actually Im seeing my professor tonight Ill ask him and get back to you guys later. I may be wrong but if I am its because my professor was wrong or I miss heard him.

 

[LeanOnMe]

I remember reading how that prolonged and frequent steroid use could permanantly change your bodies ability to protein synthesis. Could this then, if true, be passed along to your kids through heredity? Maybe it wouldn't take a dna change to pass along certain traits.

 

[busamuscle]

Well Sambo a mutagen is considered anything that interacts with DNA. Some mutagens are ciggerette smoke, alcohol, and STEROIDS. If a mutation changes the
sequence of DNA in a gene, then the mRNA and protein made from that gene will be
different than it was before the mutation. Most mutations are harmful and lead to the
synthesis of abnormal or non-functional proteins which could cause cell death or cancer.
Its unlikely to happen but there is a 1 in a million chance it could.

you are correct in in all the above except that i dont think that these have any effect on germ line cells wich produce gametes for reproduction!