Rate this Enanthate / Deca / Dianabol cycle

[mistersimon]

Just putting together a cycle containing Testosterone Enanthate, Dianabol and Deca including Post Cycle Therapy and wanted to know what you all thought. Aim is to increase mass & strength and stay reasonably cut, without losing all the gains at the end.

Here we go:

10 weeks of:
- Enanthate at 500mg per week
- Deca at 100mg per week
- Dianabol at 20mg per day (just for first 4 weeks)
- Nolvadex at 20mg per day (if needed)
- Proviron at 50mg per day

Then post cycle therapy:
- HCG at 1500 IU every 5 days (starting at same time as last Enanthate & Deca shots). Lasting 4 weeks
- Clomid for 2 weeks at 150mg per day (starting 2 weeks after last Enanthate & Deca shots)
- Then 2 weeks of Clomid at 100mg/day

See attached Word doc for a clearer explanation of the above.

Help would be much appreciated.

Cheers

 

[nydj66]

Two posts since Nov. 2007? Just been stalking there, eh?

First, throw up some stats, age, experience, etc.

1.) I like the conservative dosages but I'd probably double the deca to 200mg/week and run it for 8 weeks (so that the test goes 2 weeks longer.)

2.) Use arimidex as the anti-E instead of nolvadex (nolvadex with tren or deca is a no-no.)

3.) Overkill on the clomid. 1 week of 100mg/day followed by 3 weeks of 50mg/day is all you need.

 

[mistersimon]

Yes - it's certainly time for be to be more active in the forum!

My stats: Age 32, Training for about 6 years, 13.5 stone - pretty lean. 5ft 11. And have done a few cycles. Last one was just Deca and sustanon. But everyone's been telling be that's a rubbish combination. So want to go back to the enanthate which I've had good results on before.

I was looking at Arimidex originally but seems hard to find a source in the UK. And seems very expensive. Still if that's the best thing then I'll have to search harder! Why is Nolva with deca a bad thing (I'm showingmy ignorance now). What sort of dosage for Arimidex?

Big thanks for the info, cheers.

 

[nydj66]

Yes - it's certainly time for be to be more active in the forum!

My stats: Age 32, Training for about 6 years, 13.5 stone - pretty lean. 5ft 11. And have done a few cycles. Last one was just Deca and sustanon. But everyone's been telling be that's a rubbish combination. So want to go back to the enanthate which I've had good results on before.

I was looking at Arimidex originally but seems hard to find a source in the UK. And seems very expensive. Still if that's the best thing then I'll have to search harder! Why is Nolva with deca a bad thing (I'm showingmy ignorance now). What sort of dosage for Arimidex?

Big thanks for the info, cheers.

Deca is a progestin that can activate progesterone receptors. Nolvadex upregulates progesterone receptors and will increase the risk of side effects from deca (or tren.)

Real arimidex can be pricey and there's a chance you won't need it at all. Inhousepharmacy carries it in the UK. The liquid versions are cheaper (like from ag-guys.com). 0.5mg EOD is a nice low dosage to start with.

BTW, there shouldn't be much difference in results between sust and enanthate. They're both just testosterone and I've used both with good results. Test enanthate is less expensive and the injections don't hurt so it's a better choice IMO anyway.

 

[mistersimon]

Great. Thanks for the info there.
Here's the cycle updated with your info - see word doc. How's it looking now?

 

[miplank]

i'd bump the deca to 300mg per week.


Run the test out 2-3 week longer than the deca.

 

[bluetoolpaul]

i'd bump the deca to 300mg per week.


Run the test out 2-3 week longer than the deca.

+1

 

[mistersimon]

Does anyone reckon we can cut back on the anti-estrogens and PCT stuff.
I've just added up the costings and its coming out at around £195 for the steroids and £340 for all the other stuff.

That's about $311 for steroids and $540 for the rest.

Is all the Proviron needed? - that stuff seems really pricey.

 

[miplank]

No, the proviron isn't necessary.

 

[Dominator Human]

Does anyone reckon we can cut back on the anti-estrogens and PCT stuff.
I've just added up the costings and its coming out at around £195 for the steroids and £340 for all the other stuff.

That's about $311 for steroids and $540 for the rest.

Is all the Proviron needed? - that stuff seems really pricey.

I have come to realize that it costs a grand and up for me now and I won't start until I have all my money then I'll get my gear and PCT. Next year I want to use HGH and I know that's gonna hurt my cash flow.

Great advice on this board.