Questions on A-Fib

[jagerbombme]

First I'll explain. My first cycle was test enanth and var. Had no issues. Second cycle was test prop and NPP, had an episode of afib, it was classified as tach though but it wasn't only tach. i get fast, hard heartbeats, irregular beating, fast for 10 beats and then 3 slow beats then 5 mediums and then slow and then racing. it's crazy. I also feel weird when this happens. i can feel my heartbeat in my lungs. i know caffiene and alcohol will set this off for me also. but i am not using any and started igf and it happened again. As far as i know it's not really a danger but an annoyance. the only danger is a possible clot. but it is seriously scary. it usually happens when i'm sleeping and it wakes me up. happened last week on a night of shooting igf and big ass meal, felll asleep for a short while and woke up sweating profusely and heart racing and then the irregular beats. took aspirin and fish oil and garlic, tried a remedy my mother told me about which is raw lavender oil on your chest. believe it or not it stopped it. weird. anyways. my buddy gets this too, his episodes are much longer than mine, lasting 12 hours sometimes. mine usually last 5-20 minutes, longest run was 1.5 hours. my questions are


Should I avoid Testosterone and IGF?

Should I avoid any anabolics or androgens for good?

What anabolics or androgens will not excite this? PrimoBolan? VAR? Proviron? I mean if I can, which ones will not provoke this?

How many of you good bros does this happen too?

Is there anyway of preventing this so I can cycle Test and IGF?


If you read all of this, thank you. K for answers

 

[corporate ceo]

Call me naive, but...

Wouldn't this be a great question for your Doctor and not a board full of non-medical professionals who use AAS?

Be careful, bro.

CEO

 

[jagerbombme]

Call me naive, but...

Wouldn't this be a great question for your Doctor and not a board full of non-medical professionals who use anabolic androgenic steroids?

Be careful, bro.

CEO

I have, and I have had full sets of tests run, ultrasound on my heart, stress test, bloodwork, holter monitor, nothing shows up. only other thing i left out is when i eat when i'm ON, I get hot for a while after I eat.

 

[pstate]

I have, and I have had full sets of tests run, ultrasound on my heart, stress test, bloodwork, holter monitor, nothing shows up. only other thing i left out is when i eat when i'm ON, I get hot for a while after I eat.

my heart does the same thing to, I also get really hot after i eat to, its weird

 

[jagerbombme]

my heart does the same thing to, I also get really hot after i eat to, its weird

do you still cycle or do you ignore it? well, you canot ignore it, its really uncomfortable, xanax could help.

 

[pstate]

I still cycle, and try to ignore it, as long as i dont pass out or it gets progressivly worse, i can handle it, but i hate sweating everytime i eat worse lol

 

[jagerbombme]

I still cycle, and try to ignore it, as long as i dont pass out or it gets progressivly worse, i can handle it, but i hate sweating everytime i eat worse lol

how long do your episodes last? it usually hits me about 10pm when i've eaten big between 6pm and 8pm. when i breath in i can feel my heart beats kinda like if i was puffing on a straw and toggling the other end opened and closed. feels like butterflies in my chest. do you feel we are doomed. i read of that bro dieing and claiming he had irregular beats. i might have had irregular beats before but wouldn't have monitored it but now that i cycle naturally i'm paying much closer attention.

i've had episodes in the past five years before i ever cycled where my heart would race and feel like i was having a heart attack and would go to the er and they would give me xanax and it would chill me the fuck out.

i will say this, lavender oil and other oils from these home remedy places, one is called peace and calming oil, i don't know what it is, it really helped end this last episode.

thing is, i don't abuse the shit, and wasn't abusing igf, and if there is a way to keep doing it or if i can get answers for certain that this is nothing but benign activity, then i'll continue on cycling. and might try igf again. for now though i'm chilling. and it fucking sucks. i wanna be ON about 100mg of test prop eod and maybe some primo and tbols. a dose of 350 primo and maybe 60mg tbol ed. sounds like killer cycle. im drooling but i don't want to die for this shit. i am getting cut, dieting good, losing bf pretty good with no stims or bs, just diet. i want to get ripped and then do a good bulker. i am losing little muscle in the process, not much strength loss, not much muscle loss, but pretty much just fat loss. it's sweet.

but if igf fucks with my heart, so would growth obviously so that rules that out. i'm thinking of possibly primo/NPP cycles, short 4 weekers. 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off. i donno, getting off track here. still looking for answers to these questions. BUMPPPPPPP

 

[jagerbombme]

bump

 

[Vascular Freak]

i am thinking that the igf is causing that BUT has nothing to do with Afib....but more to do with the insulin effect of igf......how much igf are you shooting at once? before or after meals? how many carbs are you taking in?? my first run with igf i was low carbing along with tren to really drop bf fast....pre workout i was shooting 50mcg and another 50mcg pwo but with minimal carbs...i was getting INTENSE, dizziness, sweats, nausea, rapid heart beat etc....all symptoms of excessive insulin or low blood sugar which igf WILL cause in the same way as using insulin with not enough carbs...shit can be deadly

 

[st8grad]

It's a clear cut panic attack. Caffeine is a trigger, but alcohol should actually calm that down pretty quickly. Once that release of adrenaline starts it just keeps escalating. Xanax doesn't stop afib or tachy...it calms down a person with escalating anxiety. Once that happens the adrenaline release stops and your heartbeat and breathing go back to normal. It is absolutely possible for the AAS to exacerbate the symptoms. There are 1 million things that can trigger this and actually being worried that it will happen again can trigger one.
Valerian and l-theanine are good to help calm you. The biggest thing you can do for yourself is believe their tests are accurate and realize that a panic attack can't hurt you. Once you aren't afraid of having one, you'll never have it again.

First I'll explain. My first cycle was test testosterone enanthate and Anavar - oxandrolone - . Had no issues. Second cycle was test testosterone propionate and NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - , had an episode of afib, it was classified as tach though but it wasn't only tach. i get fast, hard heartbeats, irregular beating, fast for 10 beats and then 3 slow beats then 5 mediums and then slow and then racing. it's crazy. I also feel weird when this happens. i can feel my heartbeat in my lungs. i know caffiene and alcohol will set this off for me also. but i am not using any and started igf and it happened again. As far as i know it's not really a danger but an annoyance. the only danger is a possible clot. but it is seriously scary. it usually happens when i'm sleeping and it wakes me up. happened last week on a night of shooting igf and big ass meal, felll asleep for a short while and woke up sweating profusely and heart racing and then the irregular beats. took aspirin and fish oil and garlic, tried a remedy my mother told me about which is raw lavender oil on your chest. believe it or not it stopped it. weird. anyways. my buddy gets this too, his episodes are much longer than mine, lasting 12 hours sometimes. mine usually last 5-20 minutes, longest run was 1.5 hours. my questions are


Should I avoid Testosterone and IGF?

Should I avoid any anabolics or androgens for good?

What anabolics or androgens will not excite this? PrimoBolan? VAR? Proviron? I mean if I can, which ones will not provoke this?

How many of you good bros does this happen too?

Is there anyway of preventing this so I can cycle Test and IGF?


If you read all of this, thank you. K for answers