push up competition

[dabuffguy]

i think pushups are more of a endurance thing id do what was previously said and do them and more sets.. maybe if you can do 50 straight now next try 2 sets of 50 and then 3 sets of 50 then jump back and try like 1 set of 60 then 2 sets of 60 or something on those lines. i know the more i did pushups the easier they got. bench doesnt hurt though since you are using those muscles as well i wouldnt throw them out all together

It's definitley and endurance thing. But, say a kid can only do 20-25, it means he has a lack of strength, not a lack of endurance.

Benching heavy (getting stronger) will help those reps go easier. No, I didn't say it will help you do more of them, but being stronger helps.

 

[bba2]

look at a 1 rep max chart, as your 1rm goes up so does your total reps at a given weight.

when you are stronger a given weight will feel lighter and not tax the muscle as much, this allows you to lift the weight for more reps.

the further something is from your max the more reps you can do with it.

why do runners do interval training? because developing maximum v02 helps improve your distance running. no different with weight. except your working with a differnet system.

 

[dabuffguy]

look at a 1 rep max chart, as your 1rm goes up so does your total reps at a given weight.

when you are stronger a given weight will feel lighter and not tax the muscle as much, this allows you to lift the weight for more reps.

the further something is from your max the more reps you can do with it.

why do runners do interval training? because developing maximum v02 helps improve your distance running. no different with weight. except your working with a differnet system.

That's was the idea I had in mind. Good post.

 

[sothex]

sets every day? twice a day? should i do pushups every day as opposed to having a big workout and taking a day off? i really want to get them up there

 

[sugashane]

right now i can probably do about 50 pushups in one set with difficulty. In about 8 weeks time i want to get it up to 200 in one set, otherwise i don't think i will be able to win. Does anyone have any advice on how i could get my pushups up in this short amount of time?

Sorry but that sound completely unrealistic. In eight weeks you may be able to make a large gain in the amount, but quadrupling a max workload in such a short time frame is not going to happen. And are you sure he can do almost 200? That seems like an ungodly number. The most I've ever done was 86 in a set, and I had to bust my ass to get there.

 

[seagrave]

How about adjusting your form. When I had to do high rep push ups for pt tests I found that I could do them faster and more total when my hands were fairly close to my body. Of course there was a time limit and I could not do 200.

 

[gjohnson5]

LOL at you talking in circles...
"It will help those reps go easier"

What the heck does that mean?

It's definitley and endurance thing. But, say a kid can only do 20-25, it means he has a lack of strength, not a lack of endurance.

Benching heavy (getting stronger) will help those reps go easier. No, I didn't say it will help you do more of them, but being stronger helps.

 

[DaveTSI]

That's kinda like saying increasing squat means I should be able to run 1 mile farther at my current pace

pushups and running can be in no way compared as far as endurance and strength, that makes no sense at all.

i have ZERO endurance, ive trained for 1RM's for the last 4 years, but i can still blow out 80-100 pushups easily becaue my benchpress is so strong. infact i did 77 in 50secs in a physical test i had to take, so yes, increasing your bench will increase the amount of pushups you can do, obviously.

 

[gjohnson5]

What makes no sense is you saying someone who works 1RM on bench is automatically guaranteed 100 pushups. Show any science whatsoever that Type I muscle fiber plays a large part in bench 1RM. Or any other exercise for that matter.

Also show that strong type IIa,x,or b muscle fiber will enable one to do say 100 pushups while completely ignoring diet weight and bodyfat %

This is what makes no sense

pushups and running can be in no way compared as far as endurance and strength, that makes no sense at all.

i have ZERO endurance, ive trained for 1RM's for the last 4 years, but i can still blow out 80-100 pushups easily becaue my benchpress is so strong. infact i did 77 in 50secs in a physical test i had to take, so yes, increasing your bench will increase the amount of pushups you can do, obviously.

 

[gjohnson5]

Hint:

Type I muscle fibers are primarily recruited when doing endurance training since this muscle fiber can use fat (triglycerides) as fuel. These muscles tend not to grow large but since they use fats (as well as oxygen) as fuel , they can be recruited for extended periods of time.

Type II (especially Type IIb) muscle fiber are generally for explosive movements and can grow large. But these muscle fibers generally work on GLYCOGEN and CREATINE PHOSPHATE as fuel. These muscles fibers generally don't require oxygen to work and hence there is a limited amount of work these muscle can generally do at one time

So someone who benches 700 lb is not guaranteed 100 pushups especially since this person probably weighs atleast 250 and the amount of work the lungs and the heart have to do to supply the muscles being recruited with blood and oxygen is just as much a limiting factor as the amount of work the muscles themselves can do....