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Protein Timing?

2nice79

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I do cardio right after my weight lifting.but before i run i take my protein shake. should i keep doing tjis or should i take it after everything? the reason i take it before is because i run for a half an hour and i thought it would be delaying muscle absorbing.
 
you break it down, I thought muscle is mostly burned when running? well, first fat then muscle. Do I have this wrong? I'm a total noob so please help. But yeah, plus it's not good to run with all that stuff in your stomach either right?
 
I take in some protein before a workout as well - especially before cardio. To me, cardio is about burning exctra calories when you need to, not about somehow magically tapping into fat stores at strategic times liek the early morning. I don't believe it helps and having done it both ways, I'm much leaner without cardio than I ever was with it. When I do cardio, I have protein in my blood stream for absolute sure though.
 
I drink Whey in Skim 30 min before I go to the Gym and Whey with water within 30 min afterwards.

I eat food during the day(tuna, chicken, carbs etc)

I drink my Whey/Cass/Soy mix with skim before bed
 
2nice79 said:
I do cardio right after my weight lifting.but before i run i take my protein shake. should i keep doing tjis or should i take it after everything? the reason i take it before is because i run for a half an hour and i thought it would be delaying muscle absorbing.

Not sure that it matters either, but I think cardio right after lifting is counter productive. I read an article in which Charles Poliquin thinks that long distance running and running after lifting may actually signal the body to store more fat. Being that it hangs onto the preferred energy source for use when needed. Spread you cardio and lifting out over a couple hours.
 
No one agrees on when to do cardio...just do it, it burns cals. If you are already lean there is no need for it if your lifting heavy. If your higher in BF%, just do it, it burns cals, morning, noon, night, just get it in somewhere as long as your lifts dont fall off.
 
st8grad said:
Not sure that it matters either, but I think cardio right after lifting is counter productive. I read an article in which Charles Poliquin thinks that long distance running and running after lifting may actually signal the body to store more fat. Being that it hangs onto the preferred energy source for use when needed. Spread you cardio and lifting out over a couple hours.


Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2007 Feb;39(2):308-15.

Effects of Resistance Exercise on Lipolysis during Subsequent Submaximal Exercise.Goto K, Ishii N, Sugihara S, Yoshioka T, Takamatsu K.
1Department of Life Sciences, Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, University of Tokyo, Komaba, Tokyo, JAPAN; and 2Institute of Health and Sport Sciences, University of Tsukuba, Tsukuba, Ibaraki, JAPAN.

PURPOSE:: This study examined effects of prior resistance exercise on fat metabolism during subsequent submaximal exercise with different recovery periods between exercise bouts. METHODS:: Ten male subjects performed three types of exercise regimens: 1) submaximal endurance exercise only (E), 2) submaximal endurance exercise with prior resistance exercise and 20 min of rest (RE20), and 3) submaximal endurance exercise with prior resistance exercise and 120 min of rest (RE120). Resistance exercise consisted of six exercises, each with three to four sets at 10-repetition maximum. Subjects performed cycle ergometer exercise at 50% of the maximal oxygen uptake for 60 min.

RESULTS:: Prior resistance exercise caused increases in blood lactate, plasma norepinephrine, serum growth hormone (GH), insulin, and glycerol concentrations (P < 0.01). Before the submaximal exercise, serum free fatty acid (FFA) concentration was higher in the RE120 than in the RE20 and E trials (P < 0.01), although concentrations of plasma norepinephrine, serum GH, insulin, and glycerol were higher in the RE20 than in the RE120 and E trials (P < 0.05). Concentrations of FFA and glycerol during the 60-min submaximal exercise were higher in the RE120 and RE20 trials than in the E trial (P < 0.05). No significant difference was observed in the acetoacetate and 3-hydroxybutyrate responses. In the RE20 trial, fat oxidation throughout the 60-min submaximal exercise (mean value) was greater than in the E trial (P < 0.05), but no significant difference was found between the RE120 and E trials. CONCLUSION:: Fat availability during the submaximal exercise was enhanced by prior resistance exercise. However, augmentation of fat oxidation was observed only in the trial with shorter rest between resistance exercise and submaximal exercise bouts (RE20 trial).
 
Weight training results in a tremendous release of FFA's within the blood.

PWO Cardio is the perfect time to oxidize them.
 
I have tried drinking Muscle Milk between weightlifting and cardio. Don't you have like a 20-30 min amino acid window. I have started hitting the protein between routines, hopefully i can get some decent results.
 
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