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Lol at tblock asking about bodyweights, secretly hinting at the fact he's lighter and was/is stronger

dude mike weighs 200ish he said on the other page

not why haha I've always know he's heavier theres nothing to say. I was actually wondering because I wanted to know what a bodyweight press would be for him. If he gets some big gains on the press he could do bodyweight in not much time at all....
 
I still weight 200. I think I can shell out some solid gains to give myself a BW press in a couple of months.


Good Story:

So tonight my friend dragged my other friend and I to a Muy Thai class that he attends every Monday. The reason I say "dragged" is because at my current level of fitness I know I shouldn't be able to last in one of those classes. I love wrestling, I am actually very good at it, despite never playing in HS. Its just that I didn't really want to go to class where people would try to teach all this stuff, and I wouldn't even use it again because this would be the only time I would attend the class.

So anyways my bud and I end up going, and we do all the drills and stuff, I get gassed pretty quick. Just punching my partners mitts got me tired after a short bit.

Then we move on to grappling, and the friend I went with(not the one who invited me) and I are partners, so of course we half assing the drills and bitching about how we should not have gone and how we don't want to hurt ourselves for next year doing stupid stuff we don't care about.

So the instructor of the class comes over and starts showing my partner and I the drill because we were obviously screwing it up.
He looked about 190, in decent shape, but not impressive by any means. I was much more bulky looking, however he was probably about late 20's early 30's.

He gets on top of me and, using me as an example, shows my friend how to pin someone down so that they can't slide out from under you. He then proceeds to mount me from this position, so now he is sitting on my sternum/stomach area.

He goes "Now try to get out"...

I test his weight on my stomach, not too heavy, I have very strong hips and I am confident I can get him off balance with a hip thrust from the bottom, and from there get into a more favorable position. I was under the impression that he would just be surprised and choke me out right after, I didn't think I would actually stand achance against someone who practiced Muy Thai as an instructor.

So I do the hip thrust, as expected he was not prepared for my strength so he loses his stability. I twist under him so he is sitting more on my side than my stomach. I then bring my leg up from behind him, over his head and into his chest, I think my flexibility also surprised him. I used my leg to pry him off me putting him onto his back by my side. I quickly scramble to get into his guard, so that I am in between his legs and he is on his back.

My friend has this "wtf is going on" expression on his face.

I pin the dude's leg to that mat and shimmy my leg over his pinned leg so that I am halfway to fully mounting him. I have very little submission experience beside the rear naked choke and the general knowledge of how to move limbs into awkward positions to inflict pain.

I pin my chest to his chest and go for the hail Mary. I use both my arms to position his right arm into a chicken wing position so that I am bringing his elbow toward my feet and pushing his wrist towards our heads. I immediately can tell I am on to something and push the position. He taps..

By now some of the kids stopped their drills and were just watching. The instructor goes "Do you do MMA", I just say "I wrestle a bit".

He gets up and goes to grab some water and my friend is just like "Are you serious". Like we were on the fence about going to the class, but since I beat the instructor and personally have little to no martial arts experience it would be kind of worthless to stay. To be fair the dude was not in the best of shape, I felt much stronger than him. However I would assume his technique should have made up for that.

My friend said that is basically looked like I was just muscling the guy around, and that is really all it was.

The moral of this story is, you guessed it, SQUATS. The hip drive, and being able to move my body around under his without difficulty is attributed to the solid core, ass and hip strength I have developed from squatting with heavy weight.

I assure you this story is 100% true, and I no I am coming across as a cocky btch, but... whatever. I feel pretty damn strong right now haha.
 
thats pretty sick it is amazing how far raw strength and aggression can take you even in a match with someone far more trained than you
 
thats pretty sick it is amazing how far raw strength and aggression can take you even in a match with someone far more trained than you

That is really all it was. Like I was winded the whole workout and everyone else was fine. However in order to have that cardio, those people had to sacrifice some muscle. You cant do martial arts every night while staying weightlifting strong, its definitely a trade off. I think if the fight did not start on the ground where I had an advantage there may have been a different outcome. He would have tired me out much quicker.
 
hey, us lightweights can have some pretty damn amazing cardio to strength ratios....

yeah thats true I've always tried to stay no heavier than 190 or so because after that you get some solid strength gains but you really lose the cardio.

Do you do much cardio moya?

And mike if he was able to hold you off for a while in a legit fight and tire you out then he could have you. But if you went straight in with all your force right in the beginning I wouldnt be surprised if that alone would win the fight for you
 
Don't get me wrong. I have a legitimate respect for the lightweight than can move serious weight. Its impressive.

However that kind of strength does not translate as well into a fight. A 150 lbs. guy who can lift the same numbers as a 200lbs. guy does not have the same level as functional strength IMO as the 200lbs. guy.

Like I had troubling wrestling this kid during the school year who weighed about 240. I could outlift him in everything by ALOT, however he could still out muscle me. There is this raw strength that you get as you gain weight that does not necessarily carry over to your weightlifting numbers, but is definitely noticeable in other things.

Ghetto would always preach about this crap, wish he was here...
 
Don't get me wrong. I have a legitimate respect for the lightweight than can move serious weight. Its impressive.

However that kind of strength does not translate as well into a fight. A 150 lbs. guy who can lift the same numbers as a 200lbs. guy does not have the same level as functional strength IMO as the 200lbs. guy.

Like I had troubling wrestling this kid during the school year who weighed about 240. I could outlift him in everything by ALOT, however he could still out muscle me. There is this raw strength that you get as you gain weight that does not necessarily carry over to your weightlifting numbers, but is definitely noticeable in other things.

Ghetto would always preach about this crap, wish he was here...

...that is absolutely correct i will admit... the small guy can get stronger lift-wise... but when smothered with a big guys bodyweight there is a major disadvantage...

i do zero cardio in the gym... ...though im on my feet 10-12hrs a day, 5 days a week moving at a 'HIIT' -type pace at work... moving and lifting... that is my cardio... so yes... a shitload... too much...
 
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