Posterior power exercise

[spatts]

Eccentric? Ew.

 

[Longhorn85]

If you know anything about Jay Schroeder's training of Adam Archuleta - then this exercise is based on his training style.

Archuleta is a safety for the Rams. Is this the same Jay Schroeder who used to be a QB?

 

[coolcolj]

Spatts - without strong eccentric strength you will not be able to reverse a move as quick as possible, its important. Its the only way that guy can fire a 1RM in under 1.5 secs. Most people would probbaly take 3-4 secs to get up their 1RM

He can do a full floor version Glute ham raise starting from the bottom with a dumbell held on his chest, without using his hands to help, that's some strong ass hamstrings!

anyway my exercise has a strong eccentric stress, but not in the way that you think
Damn are my hams sore as...


ttlpkg - I'm not sure, I think he did play football before.

 

[spatts]

LOL..something like this?

http://www.asylum-strength.com/videos/sgluteham2.mpg

...so anyway, why do you need eccentric strength to fire concentrically? Maybe (probably) not understanding what you're saying.

 

[coolcolj]

because you have to slow down the mass and then reverse it.
If you were to graph the motion as a line graph, the faster you can do it, the more it resembles a tick/checkmark symbol. Thus you are able to better use the stretch reflex

Spatts the difference is, he's doing the floor version, starting from face down flat on the floor! Big difference
If you can do this as well - I will worship the very ground you walk on
There aren't too many people in the world that can do this, I'm working on it. Hope to join the club one day

 

[spatts]

I actually prefer the floor, as the machine hurts my knees. I don't use a 45 for that though.

I don't try to control the eccentric on a 1RM....but maybe I train it without realizing it.

 

[CytoMel]

What is this new lift?

is it for powerlifting or Olympic lifting ir bodybuilding or what?

 

[Hannibal]

Spatts - without strong eccentric strength you will not be able to reverse a move as quick as possible, its important. Its the only way that guy can fire a 1RM in under 1.5 secs. Most people would probbaly take 3-4 secs to get up their 1RM

Eccentrics just make you sore. However, reversal strength is VERY important. However, the best way I know to build reversal strength is using a percentage of the max, dropping it as fast as possible under control and then reversing it.

 

[coolcolj]

What is this new lift?

is it for powerlifting or Olympic lifting ir bodybuilding or what?

non of the above - hows that for an answer?
It falls somwhere under shock training and plyos, with a compound move thrown in. Won't help bodybuilders, unless they want to get stronger and more powerful. Definitely more an athlete/powerlifter move. Should help the squat and deadlift quite a bit at a guess.


Hannibal - yeah, you also build eccentric strength by doing eccentrics - ie very slow downward movements - as long as 10 secs, followed by a 3-5 + sec pause and then fire the weight as fast as you can push it. Well that is some of the things Jay Schroeder does. In fact he extends the pause up to 3 mins sometimes....
That outta build a nice clump of isometric strength right where you need to reverse it

He also does depth jumps, and push up depth drops to help here as well for squat and bench respectively. All Russian type shock training. Forces your muscles to fire forcefully just by the fact if you don't your gonna be hurt

 

[skaman607]

so . . . when's the release date for this new move?