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PCT is becoming ridiculous

agreed bro post cycle is becoming more expensive than the cycle itself, big business america.. you goto love it lmfao.. i keep it simple and have always recovered.. if it work why change right?!

This is kind of what I'm getting at you can do 10 weeks of test at 500 and EQ at 600 for roughly $180 and PCT will cost you more for 6 weeks.
 
Clomid - $50
Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo - $70
Formastanzol - $60
Keto Burn - $40
Ostarine - $50

That's $270 on PCT for a $180 cycle...c'mon man!
 
This is kind of what I'm getting at you can do 10 weeks of test at 500 and EQ at 600 for roughly $180 and PCT will cost you more for 6 weeks.

You pay for what you get.. If you don't want to spend more on PCT than the actual cycle, don't. IMO recovery is much more important than the actual cycle so if you want a good recovery, pay for it
 
Clomid - $50
Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo - $70
Formastanzol - $60
Keto Burn - $40
Ostarine - $50

That's $270 on PCT for a $180 cycle...c'mon man!

Hold on a minute.

THIS IS THE PROBLEM

Too many people are saying that too many products do too many things!!!

Keto burn has nothing to do with recovery of the HPTA.

Formastanazol is an anti e that should be used to control estro while on cycle, not afterward.

Ostarine is suppressive and has no place in PCT as far as Im concerned.

Clomid sucks.

There you go -- your PCT now costs $70.
 
Sorry guys, PCT back in the day always used to work just fine, now it's HCG, clomid, nolvadex, Forged this, unleashed that, four other supplements and SARMS products? Seriously wtf? It's never been this complicated and I know I'm going to get shit for this but there is a lot of extras being pushed out there.

I hear ya brother!
Good Ol' HCG,Clomid,Nolvadex works for me and maybe a test booster for shits and giggles.
 
Hold on a minute.

THIS IS THE PROBLEM

Too many people are saying that too many products do too many things!!!

Keto burn has nothing to do with recovery of the HPTA.

Formastanazol is an anti e that should be used to control estro while on cycle, not afterward.

Ostarine is suppressive and has no place in PCT as far as Im concerned.

Clomid sucks.

There you go -- your PCT now costs $70.

Agreed I wouldn't add ostarine to pct keto burn is optional and for a Stanzol you add on cycle and carry it onto pct if you have it
 
Its gets really tiring having to go through the same thing over and over again... Ostarine in pct is not suppressive at 4 weeks especially run in conjunction with all these other things... So many guys have posted bloodwork showing this... Its absolutely excellent in pct... it helps to keep gains and have a smooth pct... It does not hinder recovery in any way... Do you HAVE TO HAVE IT? NO... Is it very helpful? YES! Keto burn... Do you have to have it? No... controlling cortisol in pct is very important though so its an excellent addition... Im going to leave the serm discussion alone... Do what you will with that... I wouldn't run a pct without it but thats up to you... Forma increases IGF levels which helps to keep gains and aids in recovery... Once again, all have their place and all play a role... They wouldn't be recommended if they didn't do something of benefit... Noone is forcing you to buy anything but pct is the most important part of the cycle so covering everything possible, in my eyes, is extremely important...
 
Personally I prefer to be taking as few supplements and drugs as possible at any one time that still gives a good result... If I was cycling I'd probably be going with Nelson's recommendation... As for cost effectiveness I can make a $50 bottle of test last 15 weeks at a cruise dose... I can appreciate some of the pimped PCT's shown on here and understand why people want to cover all the bases, but you need deep pockets for that and a reason to come off, I have neither...
 
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