very true. the strength is awesome but the pumps effect your workout. as for what I have read, I also agree with you about the 2nd point. it's not the miracles roid when it comes to cutting. im starting my 4th week of tren (bumped it up for 500mg per week) and not cutting at the rate that Ive heard on these forums. but the strength and hardness , yes, they are out of this world.