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Need Help with my supplement dosages...SERIOUS KARMA

orca

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Posted this on the supplement board but there are alot more faces over here.


I know that the doses for these sups suggested on the labels are not the same for a person on a heavy dose of roids.

Hers what I am on, help if you can.

Silymarim(milk thistle extract)
Co-Q10
Saw palmetto
Vit -C
Twin Lab
Amino Fuel 2000
Stress b-complex
Garlic

I am just using the reccomended dosages right now.
 
I didn't see much from Garlic. I use olive leaf extract instead as an anti - microbe / immune booster.

Saw palmetto is proven to reduce 5AR activty in the prostate. I have a theory that exogeneous DHT (proviron) added to a cycle of Test could help fight prostate bph. This is due to reduced 5AR activity in the prostate in the presence of high concentrations of 1 methyl dht (proviron). A few studies support this but its in no way fact.

The rest look good to me.
 
If the amino fuel is in pill form I'd drop that and go with a shake.
 
orca said:

Hers what I am on, help if you can.

1 - Silymarim(milk thistle extract)
2 - Co-Q10
3 - Saw palmetto
4 - Vit -C
5 - Twin Lab
6 - Amino Fuel 2000
7 - Stress b-complex
8 - Garlic

Here are my thoughts:

1) toss it and get some ala, preferably r-ala
2) 30mg/day, but you might want to look into idebenone along with other anarchy stack ingredients
3) ? is this for the prostate? If so, not bad. I think ulter is a big fan of this if I'm not mistaken.
4) gram/day, but there are other anti-ox's...nac
5) good brand...i'm assuming this is your basic multi, if so, the recommended dosages should be fine
6) toss it and get thee some protein powder, cheaper and better...if you want some aminos by themselves, look into alcar and taurine
7) no need if you already have a multi...
8) ?
 
just keep an eye out for supps for the liver and immune system. take extra of these will on cycle. there is no magic number just take a little more than directed.
 
Milk thistle - 175mg 3x aday
Coq10-100mg 1 x aday
Saw palmetto- 160mg 2x a day
C- 1000mg 3 x a day
Amino fuel liquid- 2 tbs in the morning and 1 before exercise
B complex- 100 mg at lunch
Garlic- 1 with each meal
 
i agree with Tx, but i also feel Garlic is well worth taking.

Garlic, Green Tea Extract, r-ALA, Idebenone, Nattokinase, vitamin K2, a comprehensive enzyme product, and a good multi, we should all be taking imo.
 
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40butpumpin said:
i agree with Tx, but i also feel Garlic is well worth taking.

Garlic, Green Tea Extract, r-ALA, Idebenone, Nattokinase, vitamin K2, a comprehensive enzyme product, and a good multi, we should all be taking imo.

I don't know anything about garlic which is why I had the ?...why do you feel it's worth taking?

Also, I am interested in your thoughts on idebenone, nattokinase, and vitamin k2. The only one of those I know anything about is idebenone, but even that is very limited info.
 
TxLonghorn said:


I don't know anything about garlic which is why I had the ?...why do you feel it's worth taking?

Also, I am interested in your thoughts on idebenone, nattokinase, and vitamin k2. The only one of those I know anything about is idebenone, but even that is very limited info.

garlic acts like HDL in our blood, in fact even more effective than HDL at what it does in protecting us from arterial plaque buildup. it's also a very effective natural anti-biotic.

K2 keeps calcium out of our arteries and in our bones, where it belongs.

nattokinase is probably THE most effective clot (fibrin) dissolving substance know to man. it does this without thinning the blood, too, as is the case with aspirin.

these three substances have to be in the top 5 for arterial health imo. the other two being r-ala because of the negative effects sugar has on our cv systems, and enzymes to reduce inflammation.

i like idebenone because it acts positively on the heart muscle itself. hawthorne berry also acts on the heart muscle itself. i've had some health issues in the past that have resulted in an enlarged heart, well, one side anyway, so i make it a point to use supp's that are considered to be good for that. l-carnitine is also good for this.

i hope that helps bro.
 
garlic acts like HDL in our blood, in fact even more effective than HDL at what it does in protecting us from arterial plaque buildup. it's also a very effective natural anti-biotic.

K2 keeps calcium out of our arteries and in our bones, where it belongs.

nattokinase is probably THE most effective clot (fibrin) dissolving substance know to man. it does this without thinning the blood, too, as is the case with aspirin.

these three substances have to be in the top 5 for arterial health imo. the other two being r-ala because of the negative effects sugar has on our cv systems, and enzymes to reduce inflammation.

i like idebenone because it acts positively on the heart muscle itself. hawthorne berry also acts on the heart muscle itself. i've had some health issues in the past that have resulted in an enlarged heart, well, one side anyway, so i make it a point to use supp's that are considered to be good for that. l-carnitine is also good for this.

i hope that helps bro.

Awesome post 40butpumpin. I threw away my garlic cuase I thought it caused me to have low test issues.. what a dummy. I am going to get more now - i ignored its HDL like effects.

since 90% of heart attacks are clot related, nattokinase seems like a great supplement. I'm going to look into it.

Nobody mentioned ALCAR and 7-Keto DHEA. Why?
 
twistedneck said:


Awesome post 40butpumpin. I threw away my garlic cuase I thought it caused me to have low test issues.. what a dummy. I am going to get more now - i ignored its HDL like effects.

since 90% of heart attacks are clot related, nattokinase seems like a great supplement. I'm going to look into it.

Nobody mentioned ALCAR and 7-Keto DHEA. Why?

thanks bro. garlic does not have any negative effect on test that i have ever heard of, or experienced for that matter.

strokes too, nattokinase imo is the best substance available for this.

alcar and 7-keto are both excellent supp's, i just wish 7-keto was cheaper. since i'm on an anti-e most of the time anyway, dhea is the cheaper way to go.
 
since i'm on an anti-e most of the time anyway, dhea is the cheaper way to go.

ahh.. dhea great for everything except becoming estrogen. Estrogen is the toughest thing to control.. its got to be in such a tight low range to control bloating. too low and your going to die with no libdo..
 
Lots of good advice here. I just thought I would add my thoughts. I take both milk thistle and r-ala when on orals, and r-ala regardless. I know someone said, just r-ala, but I take both. Also, the Green Tea extract is another one that I would not be without, I take it ED.

My other thought is that with this much supplementing already, you might want to look into an injectible b-complex, much more effective, and a lot cheeper too, even counting the pins, and if you are on cycle, depending on what you are taking you can shoot it together (though, it is typically given sub-q, IM is acceptable).
 
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