need help please

[El Californio]

i am currently trying to lose bf. i have been working out for 3 months, although i did take a year off. during that time, i got overweight and very sloppy. i am ready to start a cycle and would like any opinions. my question here is, would it be beneficial to do the an 8 week cutting cycle with cdk, followed with a 10 week bulk or do i just cut for 12 weeks using a regular diet? cycles would look like this:

cycle 1
8week cut
wks 1-8 50mg winnny/day
wks1-8 140mcg clen/ECA
wks 3-8 25mcg-100mcg T3

10week bulk
wk1-8 600mg test/wk
wk5-10 75mg fina/ed
wk1-13 .25mg l-dex/ed
wk11-13 clomid

cycle 2
12week cut
wk1-12 75mg fina/ed
wk5-12 50mg winny/ed
wk1-12 140mcg clen/ECA/ed
wk6-12 T3
wk13-15 clomid

as i said, just been working out for 3months after a year off the gym. have done two cycles in the past, consisting of a 6 week eod fina cycle and a 10week 500mg sust cyle. im around 220lbs, probably 25%bf. if i do the first cycle, is it possible to lose the bf in 8 weeks, with a cdk? or should i stick with the 12week cycle with a reg diet? any help would be appreciated- thanks

 

[gilly6993]

Get your training and diet in check naturally before jumping back on the gear.....no offense but 220 25% is very sloppy....you'll be much better off not using at this point.

 

[bigdelt69]

first off, we cant tell you if you will need to bulk after the cutting cycle. You may need to cut some more. I would also put off using any AAS until you have been back into the game for a while. You should be able to cut quite a bit by adjusting your diet and training.

 

[El Californio]

so its hard to know if 8 weeks is enough? im not looking to get in the single digits, just around 11-12bf%

 

[RADAR]

This always works for me-----CARDIO ....... RADAR

 

[the mechanic]

This always works for me-----CARDIO ....... RADAR

Yep, I would say right now your best bet would be to include cardio before getting into a cycle.

 

[juice4me]

25% is pretty fat, i would incorporate a good amount of cardio into your current workout. get back down to around 18% naturally while establishing a good routine with the with the gym,diet,and then think about doing a cycle. 3 months isnt very long. after a year off your basically starting out a point 1 again.

 

[El Californio]

alrighty clen and eca it is then. do you think 16weeks is enough to get back into shape, with the right diet and workouts?

 

[bigdelt69]

all depends on your goals.

 

[garcia7]

Go natural till you get the weight down. Otherwise 8 weeks later you'll feel even worse because the gains won't outweigh the body fat which will still be high. 15-18% bf will let yourself know you are ready to cycle.