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My Training Theory...........

bros- you have ALL made excellent posts.....no matter which side of the fence you are on.......that's why I made the post. Very interesting.......We need more intellectual posts with some solid questions.
 
I hear ya', B, but if you gave your body the nutrition it needed, I would think it would adapt to the workload and be able to sustain its current size and strength. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think there's a lot more the body is capable of than we let on.

I can do 2 sessions a day, three days a week. That's six training sessions, by the way, not seven...unless I read something wrong.
 
jkurz, what's your exercises during your sessions? I'm very interested in your workout. I have a friend that works out similar to yours, with the exception that he combines it in one day for a long workout session, which I doubt I could handle, so splitting it up like you would fit in just right for me. But for my friend, working out like he does, he's a really big person and has been doing that for awhile. Thanks.
 
Tom Treutlein said:
I hear ya', B, but if you gave your body the nutrition it needed, I would think it would adapt to the workload and be able to sustain its current size and strength. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think there's a lot more the body is capable of than we let on.

I can do 2 sessions a day, three days a week. That's six training sessions, by the way, not seven...unless I read something wrong.

I've never been accused of not getting enough food...lol.

Like I said...the body WOULD adapt. It will adapt to whatever stresses you put on it. The thing is...it adapts to how YOU treat it...not how you WANT it to turn out. If you want to sustain...that is one thing. If you want to gain...that is another.

My reply about workouts (the number) was to Jkurz1 in which he is doing 9 different workouts per week. You know what...I could do 9 different workouts and my body would adapt...by getting smaller. It might also get into better cardiovascular shape...but it would probably get weaker and smaller in the process.

I also believe that the rules completely change when it comes to results comparing to where the person is in reaching their genetic potential. When I was 200 pounds...I could still do near anything and grow. I'm at a fairly lean 285+ right now and a HUGE workload (without drugs) would cause me to lose a lot.

B True
 
Gentleman....

I hate to break it to you Jkurz1 but this is far from your theory !!!
Maybe your just joking around but Joe weider's and many other people (lee haney, franco Columbo) have been using a 4 day or 6 day split for years using 2 workout's a day

eg Columbo's Week 6 day split
Morning Evening

Mon Chest, shoulders Arms, Ab's
Tue BAck Calves, thighs
Wed Chest, shoulders, abs
Thu Arms, claves
Fri Thigh's, calves, Abs back
Sat chest, shoulders, abs
Sun full rest

If you have the time and you can stick to a twice a day workout , it is very effective and has been for years, I have done this for a while and gained great results !!! just many people now do not have time to do this because of our 21st century busy lifestyles

the pro's of old loved to do this...... It is very good but very strenous

Nuff Said
 
whatchutalkinboutwillis said:
Gentleman....

I hate to break it to you Jkurz1 but this is far from your theory !!!
Maybe your just joking around but Joe weider's and many other people (lee haney, franco Columbo) have been using a 4 day or 6 day split for years using 2 workout's a day

eg Columbo's Week 6 day split
Morning Evening

Mon Chest, shoulders Arms, Ab's
Tue BAck Calves, thighs
Wed Chest, shoulders, abs
Thu Arms, claves
Fri Thigh's, calves, Abs back
Sat chest, shoulders, abs
Sun full rest

If you have the time and you can stick to a twice a day workout , it is very effective and has been for years, I have done this for a while and gained great results !!! just many people now do not have time to do this because of our 21st century busy lifestyles

the pro's of old loved to do this...... It is very good but very strenous

Nuff Said


Boy, and I was just about to copyright this routine as well....damn! lol...didnt mean for you to take it literally bro........I know I wasnt the developer...........
 
b fold the truth said:
I've never been accused of not getting enough food...lol.

Like I said...the body WOULD adapt. It will adapt to whatever stresses you put on it. The thing is...it adapts to how YOU treat it...not how you WANT it to turn out. If you want to sustain...that is one thing. If you want to gain...that is another.

My reply about workouts (the number) was to Jkurz1 in which he is doing 9 different workouts per week. You know what...I could do 9 different workouts and my body would adapt...by getting smaller. It might also get into better cardiovascular shape...but it would probably get weaker and smaller in the process.

I also believe that the rules completely change when it comes to results comparing to where the person is in reaching their genetic potential. When I was 200 pounds...I could still do near anything and grow. I'm at a fairly lean 285+ right now and a HUGE workload (without drugs) would cause me to lose a lot.

B True


285 and lean?????? What's lean? Can I see your routine?
 
Take B Fold advice, it is base on experience and competition at the top level Drug -Free. I agree with Clint to a Degree I could never get away doing heavy compund lifts 6xweek. When I was younger I could do that and pitch a game after with ease but when at the body's gentic limit it becomes real hard to gain muscle so you need more rest and food.
 
Lord_Suston said:
Take B Fold advice, it is base on experience and competition at the top level Drug -Free. I agree with Clint to a Degree I could never get away doing heavy compund lifts 6xweek. When I was younger I could do that and pitch a game after with ease but when at the body's gentic limit it becomes real hard to gain muscle so you need more rest and food.

Very impressive website bfold.....and I do respect your opinion...could I see a sample of your current routine? You look pretty tight at 290, bf%?

Hey, I'm not saying my approach is best. I'm alkways willing to try new routines/diets. But, put yourself in my shoes. I train hard first thing in the am and have to be at work by 6am. Now, when 5 pm rolls around, after sitting for 10 hours and eating 6 meals, I feel like I need to move my legs, or do something! Thats why I go back for another half hour session.......what do you reccomend?
 
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