My Training Theory...........

[Dorian'sDisciple]

Ok it seems that one is not allowed to say anything without risk of causing offence. Jkurz you created this thread for others to read and comment upon,i did so.

You make a statement like 'I wont feel overtrained........and if I do, I won't know it...trained like this forever........'.

Fine.However,you make many,many threads asking for help/advice...asking if you should train x2 a day. You spend most of your freetime in the gym and you are always changing what you do. This makes any sane man start to wonder if you're seeing the results you want - after all I never see Needsize,Clint,Walkingbeast starting numerous 'help me'...'what do you think about...' threads. These are experienced guys who train a certain,sensible way and stick to it.

I'm sorry,but 6'2 and 195 is by no means massive ....how the hell do you know that a reduction in volume would not get you bigger? why are you so oversensitive if someone argues against your constant desire to INCREASE volume further and suggests the possibility of DECREASING it?

If you were finding your training rewarding I doubt you would come here and post the kind of threads you do. You must know that most guys (the great walkingbeast excepted) train using more moderate volume why do you feel the need to buck the trend.



It got you this far? bro,it got everyone this far...i only know a handful of lifters who didn't crazy overtrain when they were young and/or starting out.

Given the things you post it is clear you are not progressing that much and are frustrated by this,i was actually trying to help you becuase i have been there. If you were so set why do you need advice so much? you think Arnold would have come here in his heyday? hell no! because he would know that all he would get is people disagreeing with his methods, he would say fuck it becuase it worked for him and the hell with us. You don't do that because it aint working.

And kindly dont try to start shit with me like you did on that other thread...you have a problem PM me ,we can talk there but you aren't in any position to 'warn' me.

finally, I'm beach ready?? to honest bro fuck the beach i don't lift for that crap. i lift to be strong,.muscular and powerful and 6'2 195lbs isn't that

F

 

[majutsu]

BFold -- nice website. Outstanding and motivational. Thanks, man.

 

[du Chaneaux17]

I think you're taking this a bit too far, bro. It's good to make a thread with different opinions, but let's not be ignorant and use offensive words. If you don't like the workout but it works for others, then leave it be.

 

[b fold the truth]

Very impressive website bfold.....and I do respect your opinion...could I see a sample of your current routine? You look pretty tight at 290, bf%?

Hey, I'm not saying my approach is best. I'm alkways willing to try new routines/diets. But, put yourself in my shoes. I train hard first thing in the am and have to be at work by 6am. Now, when 5 pm rolls around, after sitting for 10 hours and eating 6 meals, I feel like I need to move my legs, or do something! Thats why I go back for another half hour session.......what do you reccomend?

I am a strongman and my training revolves around heavy weights, logs, yokes, tires, stones, wheels, etc...

B True

 

[whatchutalkinboutwillis]

nice site bfold........ Looks good i would like to discuss numbers with you sometime

 

[WalkingBeast]

Take B Fold advice, it is base on experience and competition at the top level Drug -Free. I agree with Clint to a Degree I could never get away doing heavy compund lifts 6xweek. When I was younger I could do that and pitch a game after with ease but when at the body's gentic limit it becomes real hard to gain muscle so you need more rest and food.

Yes, Id have to agree with this. I only do heavy compound lifts 3X a week at the most. And I make sure it tears me the fuck up. I used to be able to train 6-7X a week no problem, and moved furniture, plus biked 14 miles a day (transportation). These days, I lift much more weight and have learned to apply even more intensity then years ago. I think when you add that much more weight to all your lifts, the accumulative stress is MUCH greater. I only train about 5X a week now, max. I may hit 6, but thats rare. I was doing 4 days for a while, not training legs but deadlifting. I was still quite torn up.

 

[WalkingBeast]

after all I never see Needsize,Clint,Walkingbeast starting numerous 'help me'...'what do you think about...' threads. These are experienced guys who train a certain,sensible way and stick to it.

ThanX for the compliments brother!! I still have so much to learn.The knowledge that is most useful to me, is the knowledge of what I need to do to grow and get stronger. Not merely book knowledge, though it can be somewhat applied to lifting. I think the real knowledge comes from experience. Ive stuck to my routine for all the time Ive been training, with lots of modifications, but Ive been plateaud for the last few years size-wise. My strength has increased quite a bit, but measurements have been at a stand still. My arms have grown, slowly, but upper body especially has been stagnant. I think it has alot to do with me not eating enough and staying consistant with my diet. So I still have alot to work on as well. Without getting in the middle of the arguments, lets try not to flame eachother or resort to any name calling. Since its just a discussion board , no need for it to get personal. If anyone really has an issue with another member you can always take it up in PM's. Ive gotten angry on here too, so I understand!! Train Or Fuckin Die!!!!

 

[JKurz1]

Ok it seems that one is not allowed to say anything without risk of causing offence. Jkurz you created this thread for others to read and comment upon,i did so.

You make a statement like 'I wont feel overtrained........and if I do, I won't know it...trained like this forever........'.

Fine.However,you make many,many threads asking for help/advice...asking if you should train x2 a day. You spend most of your freetime in the gym and you are always changing what you do. This makes any sane man start to wonder if you're seeing the results you want - after all I never see Needsize,Clint,Walkingbeast starting numerous 'help me'...'what do you think about...' threads. These are experienced guys who train a certain,sensible way and stick to it.

I'm sorry,but 6'2 and 195 is by no means massive ....how the hell do you know that a reduction in volume would not get you bigger? why are you so oversensitive if someone argues against your constant desire to INCREASE volume further and suggests the possibility of DECREASING it?

If you were finding your training rewarding I doubt you would come here and post the kind of threads you do. You must know that most guys (the great walkingbeast excepted) train using more moderate volume why do you feel the need to buck the trend.



It got you this far? bro,it got everyone this far...i only know a handful of lifters who didn't crazy overtrain when they were young and/or starting out.

Given the things you post it is clear you are not progressing that much and are frustrated by this,i was actually trying to help you becuase i have been there. If you were so set why do you need advice so much? you think Arnold would have come here in his heyday? hell no! because he would know that all he would get is people disagreeing with his methods, he would say fuck it becuase it worked for him and the hell with us. You don't do that because it aint working.

And kindly dont try to start shit with me like you did on that other thread...you have a problem PM me ,we can talk there but you aren't in any position to 'warn' me.

finally, I'm beach ready?? to honest bro fuck the beach i don't lift for that crap. i lift to be strong,.muscular and powerful and 6'2 195lbs isn't that

F

Oh Dorian....relax. First of all, when I did I ever claim to be massive? I said I was content with my strength and get compliments on my muscle growth, symetry, etc. on a reoccurring basis. That makes me confident. I'm also confident enough and in good enough shape to walk on stage with just a few tune ups. Sure, I'd get killed at 6'2, but thats not my point. My point is I train to look good, feel good, and well, as a hobby. My goal is not to try and squat 700lbs or bench 500. I'm happy getting 350 and also having the 6-pack to show off. Sounds arrogant, but to a degree, we all are.

As for my ? in my posts, 99% are for informational purposes. May pertain to me, may not. I enjoy helping others and I enjoy learning as much as I can about bodybuilding, the sport and the lifestyle.

You on the other hand, are so narrow minded and so into "my theory is the only theory" that it's pretty much worthless trying to talk to you. I'm not the only one that feels this way and I know you know that. Anyways, if it's so hard for you to learn from others, absorb some ideas of others and possibly stray from you current beliefs from time to time, then so be it. If it REALLY bothers you, just skip reading my posts......not looking for arguments. Just constructive cristism, which you obvioulsy have none to offer.

 

[HP_816]

so you guys are saying that if i one day started out db pressing the 60's and maybe 1-2 years later slowly progressed and was able to now press the 130's+ that i would of experienced no muscle growth?, but i would simply be recruiting more fibers? what a bunch of bs. only dudes i see pressing the heavies in the gym have large chests to back it up. no skinny dudes magically throwing around the big weights. sure maybe in something so heavily reliant on cns as the squat, deadlift, and to a lesser extent the bench press, but sometimes shit cant be faked. you either have it or you dont.

 

[Dorian'sDisciple]

jkurz i'm extending the olive branch. i was maybe a bit too forthright in my views but i believe you got offended a little easily.

peace bro- i really was only trying to help you..i called it as i saw it. lets forget it dawg