blueta2 said:you see BM this is the sort of immature behavior I'm talking about.
Why not take our difference of opinions and just accept it.
you go on and on and on.
I didn't lose respect for you cause you hate animals, I lost all respect for you b/c you behave like a child when you post shit like this.
I never believed what Plunk would say, but now I;m starting to see it. And not saying that to be mean, but seriously, you never let up!

blueta2 said:ok forget it. Now I'm really done in this thread.
Everyone who pm'ed me and k msg me, you're right., No point!
hog#head#cheese said:Go BM GO!!
BIKINIMOM said:Oh come on now... this is EXACTLY like the thread where HeatherRae posted up about her douchebag coworker who got his sorry ass fired.
I mean, what do people think? That if they *feel* a certain way they are going to get into heaven faster?
PuddleMonkey said:Animals > People
blueta2 said:My the way Dale, my friend breed Dobermans are you are 101% incorrect.
Dobermans are the most loyal breeds if raised correctly.
You were either not a good owner or the dog was ill.
A CANDID LOOK AT DOBERMAN TEMPERAMENT
by John T. Brueggeman
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Although Doberman temperament has undergone a gradual but steady decrease in overall sharpness during recent years, today's Doberman is still a dog that requires intelligent handling and does offer good protection for his owner, family, home, auto and business. But due to his energetic nature and super intelligence, many people do not make good owners although he isn't nearly as difficult to own as he was in those earlier days when the Doberman earned his reputation as being the sharpest thing on four feet! The uneducated public still harbors a pronounced fear of the Doberman Pinscher, and strangely enough, this has been a lasting blessing for the breed. But how then, can the Doberman breed with such a reputation, be one of the ten most popular breeds in the United States today.
The answer is simple enough. The Doberman has always been, for the most part, extremely loyal and very trustworthy to his master to a greater extent than most other breeds. He is also a dog that becomes an important and enjoyable part of the family. He requires close association with those he loves and when this love is present, his temperament makes him a natural protector.
hog#head#cheese said:The funny part is HR started all this bullshit with her fuckin cat thread
Grumpy Old Man said:WHAT???? What is all this the cat is sick the dog is sick? I think sickness is elsewhere.
My Dobbies were bred and were great dogs until age 7. Who the fuck are you to tell me I am a bad owner? I have had large dogs all my life including Rottweilers, German Shepards (Red Shepards look that up My dogs name was Bear)
Once a dog exhibits bite behavior ask your friend what he does, espescially with Dobbies. they turn overnight. SO I would be happy to have given them to you. Then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Did you forget to take your meds? I have never had a problem with you ever!
Get a grip!
PuddleMonkey said:I'd love to have a minpin! Only small dog I'd ever own.
Smurfy said:lol BM is one tough cookie
Besides that, I don't NEED to call someone a name or put them down or even make a REALLY NASTY personal comment about them simply because I can't support my point of view intelligently... as clearly I HAVE. nefertiti said:BM....I am impartial in your debate with blue, but from where I stand you've been pretty passive aggressive in this thread. You both have crossed certain lines I think but you denying that you were not provoking some of it is like wearing a condom and claiming you didn't have sex....just my observation. I am NOT GETTING IN THE MIDDLE and this is my only comment, but as an outside observer, that's what it looks like to me...no clean parties here.
BIKINIMOM said:That's ok... I am not offended.
We all read and hear with our own filters and not with the author's/speakers filters. It is inevitable.
So I don't feel the need to get offended when others *think* they know what my motivations are.
I stated my position clearly why then would I feel the need to be passive aggressive? I did not remotely try to disguise my feelings.
nefertiti said:Well if I read it with that filter...perhaps you can understand why blueta might have read it the same way? I like you both and dislike what I've seen happen here.
nefertiti said:Edit--nevermind...not my battle...
PuddleMonkey said:Don't be a sissy!
nefertiti said:No....this is not for me to settle....BM and blue will work it out.
PuddleMonkey said:Nobody likes a quitter!

nefertiti said:and I'm not going to continue the spectacle for the entertainment of others.
nefertiti said:No....this is not for me to settle....BM and blue will work it out.
bw1 said:Yes, naked jello wrestling
PuddleMonkey said:This disappoints me greatly.
BIKINIMOM said:'Course Blue thought that by trying to needle me about MY CHILDREN that somehow she would rouse my ire?
Smurfy said:fyi old ladies. i'm still watching over this thread so let's keep it clean or I will unleash on your asses!
heatherrae said:I HATE my cat. I can't even tell you how much. She has peed in my bed, scratched up my furniture, scratched my carpet up, gets her nasty hair EVERYWHERE and you can't vaccuum this stuff up. It's like crazy glue. It is mere guilt that keeps me from dropping her at the pound TODAY.
Yesterday, I came home and sat down on the chair with devin and thought, "Hmmm..why is my butt wet? I must have let a bottle leak on the chair?" Then, I thought about it more and realized that I KNEW I didn't do that. THEN THE SMELL HIT ME!!! Holy crap! I wanted to KILL that cat. So, I took all the cushions off and sprayed them with an enzyme cleaner made just for that purpose and aired them out in the sun for hours. JESUS that is NASTY! Thank goodness this cleaner actually was the bomb and took the smell out, but that is just gross. I want to strangle this cat on a daily basis.
I HATE HER HATE HER HATE HER!
blueta2 said:Where did I needle you about your children?
Smurfy said:fyi old ladies. i'm still watching over this thread so let's keep it clean or I will unleash on your asses!
blueta2 said:Smurf, can you see where I needled her children? I never brought up her kids?! I am on drugs today so maybe I wrote it and just can't find it?
Smurfy said:grump - pass that popcorn

blueta2 said:you see BM this is the sort of immature behavior I'm talking about.
Why not take our difference of opinions and just accept it.
you go on and on and on.
I didn't lose respect for you cause you hate animals, I lost all respect for you b/c you behave like a child when you post shit like this.
I never believed what Plunk would say, but now I;m starting to see it. And not saying that to be mean, but seriously, you never let up!
blueta2 said:Smurf, can you see where I needled her children? I never brought up her kids?! I am on drugs today so maybe I wrote it and just can't find it?
BIKINIMOM said:That comment about Plunkey? The vile shit he would post up about me? THE ONLY exchanges that he and I had EVER had were in reference to MY CHILDREN... so one would think that would be a logical assumption?
And what was all that about you defending me in the past? If you felt that need you should have done it because you thought it was something that was
1. worthy of your efforts.
2. something that you believed in regardless of who I was.
and not because you felt that this meant I should agree with whatever viewpoint you ever have in any sort of debate.
It was a bad attempt at a cheap shot.
I haven't even TRIED to hide my true feelings about animals vs human beings. Hell one might even say I didn't even TRY to candy coat or politically correct them. Why should I? For goodness sakes - WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ANIMALS HERE - NOT HUMAN BEINGS. So I should be "sensitive" why exactly? It's not like the dogs and kitties of the world will be reading my words on elite.
Let us gain some perspective, shall we?
If you choose to put animals onto the same tier as human beings then you are free to do so. I never once said anything ill about you personally for this. Nor have I ever advocated the wanton mistreatment of any living thing, not even plants. So where you got this "I hate animals" stuff is beyond me. But if that is what you need to tell yourself in order to justify my existance in your head, then you are free to do so. I am not bothered by that one bit. No sarcasm... just stating a fact.
I am still trying to understand where you felt so attacked that you felt the need to retaliate with personal shots? I never said anything bad about you. I pointed out the flaw with you quoting Ghandi about juding a society by how they treat their animals. Strange words from a man who hailed from a society where a female life is less than that of a freaking cow.
Ya gotta be kiddin me.
blueta2 said:You took that as me taking a shot at your kids!
In every friggin thread you bring up your abusive ex and your kids.
I was there in your thread about your kids happy for you and you can take me agreeing with plunkey's assessment of you as me taking a shot at your kids?
Let's gain some perspective? My God! Seriously!
Ok guys, am I being punked! Is Ashton going to come out of the closet soon?
No wait, I'm on an episode of the twilight zone right?
BM I have nothing further to say to you..........ever or to your charming husband!
BIKINIMOM said:Here perhaps this will help:
And yet my opinion of you remains the same.
Grumpy Old Man said:So much for loyalty or defense. More drugs please
blueta2 said:I think it's time you take old YELLER of my children out back and .........well you know the rest
I'm on antibiotics for my lyme you old wind bag!
blueta2 said:You took that as me taking a shot at your kids!
In every friggin thread you bring up your abusive ex and your kids.
I was there in your thread about your kids happy for you and you can take me agreeing with plunkey's assessment of you as me taking a shot at your kids?
Let's gain some perspective? My God! Seriously!
Ok guys, am I being punked! Is Ashton going to come out of the closet soon?
No wait, I'm on an episode of the twilight zone right?
BM I have nothing further to say to you..........ever or to your charming husband!


Grumpy Old Man said:It seems to have affected your judgement madame
And yes I do. Is your animal some what of a problem?
And weeks ago I offered you some free product to see if it would help you. Because as you know I have no heart and really don't care about much of anything.
So I am done.
Grumpy Old Man said:I was on the way home and I sped up to hit two bunnies, damn only got one. The slow one, see natural selection works. Like when a bear chases a couple hunters, ya just have to be faster than the slowest hunter.
Jon79 said:maybe u should get some dick and stop hatin on the cat...
here here! People who allow their dogs, who they know are biters, bite a child should go to PRISON. I love animals, but I love children WAY MORE. My ex had a St Bernard that was a biter. It has bitten 3 or 4 people now and he still keeps it! It bit a little boy ON THE FACE! The little boy had to have stitches in his face. the only reason he didn't get sued was because it was his employee's son who was bitten, and the employee was probably afraid of being fired.Grumpy Old Man said:You are correct! People that allow bad animals to option of really hurting someone should be spayed as not to pollute the already screwed up gene pool.
Two well trained animals that their main job was protection are not something to mess with. Once a Dobbie disobeys even one command or exhibits bite behavior ir is time to so exactly what I did.
The two animals grew up together and were teained as a team, they were 7 years old and very strong and healthy.
If one animal decided to take me or anyone else down that would be the last thing I would ever see. I would be food for days. And still dead.
So animals are animals and here to serve us. Just like those ugly cattle we eat that are made of steaks and roasts.
Or at least something functional:
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heatherrae said:here here! People who allow their dogs, who they know are biters, bite a child should go to PRISON. I love animals, but I love children WAY MORE. My ex had a St Bernard that was a biter. It has bitten 3 or 4 people now and he still keeps it! It bit a little boy ON THE FACE! The little boy had to have stitches in his face. the only reason he didn't get sued was because it was his employee's son who was bitten, and the employee was probably afraid of being fired.[/QUOTE
LOL,Here we go again

BWA HA HA...pappad said:You'll never get a man like that!!! You are going to be that crazy old cat lady! LOL
BTW, you know how people that smoke stink and don't know it? I wonder if you smell like cat pee and just don't know it?
Just sayin'
Probably. She stinks! lol.mountain muscle said:She must be a republican.
this is true.heatherrae said:I was thinking about how mad people got in this thread last night. You know, I think all the people who were really mad don't have children. Once you have kids, you get some perspective on the whole pet thing. Yes, we love our pets LIKE one of the family, but once you have a baby, you get a grip and realize these pets are NOT OUR BABIES. So, when it comes down to babying some animal or making your human child live in filth, you are going to choose your human child. Period.
Wait until you guys have babies, if you do have babies, and a little light bulb will go on over your head and you will say, "I see what HR meant now."
EXACTLY!Smurfy said:this is true.
until you have kids, your pet may be the closest thing you have that you consider an extension of yourself and you love it and nurture it as if you bore it (i know that sounds silly but true pet lovers know what I mean, you truly feel like you are the parent)
but once you have a child, while you dont stop loving animals and pets, it does put a different spin on things and you suddenly have a whole new perspective not only on pets, but on life as a whole. its not easy to explain.
I'm smartheatherrae said:EXACTLY!
If you were at the pound, I would totally adopt you. (I would have you put to sleep when you became inconvenient for me, but I would adopt you for a little bit)Smurfy said:I'm smart
Smurfy said:this is true.
until you have kids, your pet may be the closest thing you have that you consider an extension of yourself and you love it and nurture it as if you bore it (i know that sounds silly but true pet lovers know what I mean, you truly feel like you are the parent)
but once you have a child, while you dont stop loving animals and pets, it does put a different spin on things and you suddenly have a whole new perspective not only on pets, but on life as a whole. its not easy to explain.


Ah, we love you BM and pray for your kids to swiftly be brought home. =-)BIKINIMOM said:Yet you just did.
So now what is that, three mothers that are going to hell for *hating animals*? .... or is that three mothers who don't feel ashamed to say that while they love animals, they love their children (or ANY human) MORE.
And it's interesting to note that I am *the only* board member who "isn't allowed" to talk about her children?
I am now "Old Yeller of her children"?!?!
Baby - you had BETTER FUCKIN BELIEVE IT.
I will never EVER EVER rest until my children are safe and protected and HAPPY. Anyone who *is getting tired* or who has *gotten tired* reading about it (sorry, I don't have any recent cute family pictures of them because for now a process must be completed before I can bring them home to me and my old windbag husband who has dedicated HIS LIFE to bringing children he did NOT father to safety) will have to remain statisfied to type and talk about them.
Once we get them back the board will be sick with all the pics we post.![]()
heatherrae said:Ah, we love you BM and pray for your kids to swiftly be brought home. =-)
She has a really nice backside, too.hog#head#cheese said:I love BM and her 15 line k messages damn that woman loves to type
hog#head#cheese said:I love BM and her 15 line k messages damn that woman loves to type
you go first.bw1 said:can you hens quit your yackin already and post nudes.......k? thanks
heatherrae said:you go first.
ok, thank you in advance. =-)
BIKINIMOM said:LOL You oughtta hear me talk!
Although when me and the Old Grump are together he is center stage. If you could make it to the meet-up you would see. The dude is non-stop "on".... I really love that about him.

Do you like cellulite, perchance? lol.bw1 said:can you hens quit your yackin already and post nudes.......k? thanks
BIKINIMOM said:LOL You oughtta hear me talk!
Although when me and the Old Grump are together he is center stage. If you could make it to the meet-up you would see. The dude is non-stop "on".... I really love that about him.
heatherrae said:Do you like cellulite, perchance? lol.
heatherrae said:If you were at the pound, I would totally adopt you. (I would have you put to sleep when you became inconvenient for me, but I would adopt you for a little bit)
BM should squirt you with a water bottle to get you to BEHAVEGrumpy Old Man said:I would put everyone to sleep here. I am sick, my Doctor says I am well, I have a cold nose but it runs, I pee myself and I am not going to change cause I am not done yet. I feel like chasing cars right now.
heatherrae said:BM should squirt you with a water bottle to get you to BEHAVE
heatherrae said:I HATE my cat. I can't even tell you how much. She has peed in my bed, scratched up my furniture, scratched my carpet up, gets her nasty hair EVERYWHERE and you can't vaccuum this stuff up. It's like crazy glue. It is mere guilt that keeps me from dropping her at the pound TODAY.
Yesterday, I came home and sat down on the chair with devin and thought, "Hmmm..why is my butt wet? I must have let a bottle leak on the chair?" Then, I thought about it more and realized that I KNEW I didn't do that. THEN THE SMELL HIT ME!!! Holy crap! I wanted to KILL that cat. So, I took all the cushions off and sprayed them with an enzyme cleaner made just for that purpose and aired them out in the sun for hours. JESUS that is NASTY! Thank goodness this cleaner actually was the bomb and took the smell out, but that is just gross. I want to strangle this cat on a daily basis.
I HATE HER HATE HER HATE HER!
Grumpy Old Man said:Why do you always try to squirt me with a hose when I am having seks?

BIKINIMOM said:And to whom exactly was this post directed?![]()
heatherrae said:I HATE my cat. I can't even tell you how much. She has peed in my bed, scratched up my furniture, scratched my carpet up, gets her nasty hair EVERYWHERE and you can't vaccuum this stuff up. It's like crazy glue. It is mere guilt that keeps me from dropping her at the pound TODAY.
Yesterday, I came home and sat down on the chair with devin and thought, "Hmmm..why is my butt wet? I must have let a bottle leak on the chair?" Then, I thought about it more and realized that I KNEW I didn't do that. THEN THE SMELL HIT ME!!! Holy crap! I wanted to KILL that cat. So, I took all the cushions off and sprayed them with an enzyme cleaner made just for that purpose and aired them out in the sun for hours. JESUS that is NASTY! Thank goodness this cleaner actually was the bomb and took the smell out, but that is just gross. I want to strangle this cat on a daily basis.
I HATE HER HATE HER HATE HER!
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