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extremesportsathlete said:Hey guys! Great thread! I must say that this is all great info for fighters. I am the Director of Ops for one of the biggest ammy promotions in the country.(and a fighter for others) I am not encouraging anyone to use aas, but not gonna bad mouth it either! Performance enhancers is what I like to call them... As far as the testing goes, I gotta tell you that most sanctioning bodies dont require amatures to be screened for drugs. And the ones that do have a narrow range on the ua. The testing usually is required consists of hiv and hep testing.... Just thought some of you would find that interesting.
ass_face said:Great post brother!
Through my experience I have found shorter, higher dose, cycles to be safer, more effective and less taxing on the HPT Axis recovery time. I have tried everything from 2 week to 16 week cycles and 4-6 weeks is the best in my opinion. I get blood work done before and after every cycle and anything past 5-6 weeks starts to really effect your lipid panel. Prolonged deleterious lipid panels are not a good thing and lead to many ill effects.
As for your under a gram rule... you may be right. I am a little over that, but I am looking at this as trial and error. If my cardio starts to blow, I will back it down.... just finish the anavar or cease all together.
Deltroit said:Keep me posted I'm very interested in your real world results. If possible please post how your training improved/suffered etc. Though I don't believe short cycles are the best option for mass gain I would like to explore the short cycle theory for MMA. I'd like to carve out a little niche for MMA sport specific athletes here. As for drug testing there are always ways around that. Pride doesnt drug test and neither to the majority of small shows.
ass_face said:Actually I have found short cycles (for example 4-5 weeks 8 weeks off and repeat) are far superior in mass gain than a straight 12 weeker). You can use less gear overall and get far better results. Also, you keep more of it because of the minimal supression of the HPTA.
Just a little Update... it is one week in. I am a little stronger, most likely from the anavar... and my cardio actually improved throughout the week. I really the think the exemestane is helping to keep the excess water off of me and this has helped in making sure I don't "gas out" when I train. I really won't be able to accurately evaluate this cycle until week 3, but so far so good.
Deltroit said:Interesting, considering your running over a gram and half of gear right now. Just to clarify, when you say "overall" do you mean total for the entire length of the cycle? I do think 6+ can be beneficial. I don't think its the same for everyone (6,8,10,12wkrs) but even 4 week cycles are gonna shut you down just the same, and most people are not going to be able to hold onto that weight for any length of time. Have you ever come off for 4+ months? If so were you able to retain what you gained? How many cycles do you run in a typical year??? I run (3) 8 weeks cycles a year (time on = time off) this seems to work for me. I know others who prefer 10-12 but for me anything over 10 seems counterproductive. I really feel the EQ cardio benefit in week 3. I bet you'll be lovin it by then if haven't overdone the other compounds.
ass_face said:Yeah, today will be a real test. It is week two and I felt sluggish all day. Not sure if I have some allergies or if the shit is starting to kick in. We shall find out in an hour.