Intermittent Fasting discussion thread!!

[George_Costanza]

I discovered an interesting thing yesterday after fasting all day to enjoy a cheat meal feast in the evening: the longer I fast before a meal and the more excited I am to eat the food in front of me, the more animalistic I become. By animalistic, I mean I become very primitive and protective of my food around others, I don’t really breathe when I eat, and the funniest thing is, I start drooling uncontrollably, all over my food. I mean, large globs of saliva start dripping out of my mouth.

I took notice of this the other day when me and a friend had a sushi feast. I had not eaten yet for the day and did a serious session of squats earlier. I started drooling when the sushi arrived and had to try and catch it and hope that my friend and his girlfriend didn’t notice. Lol

I’m guessing the drooling is a natural mechanism for the body to aid in the digestion of our food and it’s not as pronounced when we eat frequent, small meals. I think it’s pretty funny though.

 

[RickRock13]

I discovered an interesting thing yesterday after fasting all day to enjoy a cheat meal feast in the evening: the longer I fast before a meal and the more excited I am to eat the food in front of me, the more animalistic I become. By animalistic, I mean I become very primitive and protective of my food around others, I don’t really breath when I eat, and the funniest thing is, I start drooling uncontrollably, all over my food. I mean, large globs of saliva start dripping out of my mouth.

I took notice of this the other day when me and a friend had a sushi feast. I had not eaten yet for the day and did a serious session of squats earlier. I started drooling when the sushi arrived and had to try and catch it and hope that my friend and his girlfriend didn’t notice. Lol

I’m guessing the drooling is a natural mechanism for the body to aid in the digestion of our food and it’s not as pronounced when we eat frequent, small meals. I think it’s pretty funny though.

Its funny that you touch on this subject, and its a great thing to bring up. It is all part of our human instinct just as our ancestors did the same.

As human beings we differ from animals in that we have the power of choice and self control....but even with that you still can't deny what happens when you finally get to eat. Its normal to eat fast, feel like you can never get full, and not want anything to come between you and your meal.

I often times have to slow my eating at times I break fast, as I wat almost uncontrably. Sometimes we don't even realize things we are doing. Sometimes during my extended fasts on the weekends, my daughter or wife will be talking to me ad I'm eating and they will physically have to interrupt me because I'm so into my meal that I'm not listening to anyone.

What's great is right after a fast breaker, getting that food high....almost a great sense of euphoria and you can literally feel the nutrients shuttling into your body. Sometimes on workout days when I'm running higher carbs I will get a food pump right after breaking fast as well. Those days are always immediately after a low carb, cardio day so I'm always depleted. At that time in a fasted state, after taking in 50-60% of your days macros and carbohydrates your body will shuttle those nutrients at an accelerated rate giving you that euphoric feeling and those "food pumps"as your glycogen stores replenish. If I have a tighter fitting shirt on I can see myself swell right up, and I can certainly feel it. Vascularity will start coming on big time right after breaking fast as well.

 

[George_Costanza]

That's funny.

I love that food high after a big carb-up. I visualize the nutrients being shuttled around my body and into the cells.

I also went for a brunch with my friends the other day and these days I usually order two meals, as one just is not enough. My buddy's girlfriend asked if she could have one of my pancakes (since I had two meals) and out of politeness I obliged. However, on the inside, I was so angry. If anyone else at the table asked for a pancake, I was prepared to just say "no", and explain that there was not enough.

I also have trouble listening to anyone, even the TV for that matter, after a long fast. Makes sense though, you think a hungry lion is going to take his attention away form his kill after not eating for a couple of days and having a bunch of scavengers just waiting for him to step away?

 

[yashdutt]

hi guys just need a little advice, i wish to start my cutting cycle tomorrow and ive been doing IF for a while now and my current routine is break fast at 2pm - 10pm. cardio in the morning and weights at about 7.

im going to stack clen and katandrol 3.0. im taking clen as soon as i wake but when should i take the katanadrol? because it says i need to take it with food however i eat at 2. is that too late in the day?

also the servings for katanadrol are 2 caps but do i take them both at once or spread it throughout the day?

thanks guys

 

[RickRock13]

hi guys just need a little advice, i wish to start my cutting cycle tomorrow and ive been doing IF for a while now and my current routine is break fast at 2pm - 10pm. cardio in the morning and weights at about 7.

im going to stack clen and katandrol 3.0. im taking clen as soon as i wake but when should i take the katanadrol? because it says i need to take it with food however i eat at 2. is that too late in the day?

also the servings for katanadrol are 2 caps but do i take them both at once or spread it throughout the day?

thanks guys

I always take my first dose of orals with my fast breaker and my last dose with my last meal. Split your dose and have them 8 hours apart.

The food helps absorption and more of the compound will get used by the body. Do not take oral anabolics on an empty stomach since stomach acids can break down some of it making it unusable. The food (especially fats) help to coat and protect the moleculular structure of the compound.

 

[fkjr2]

Absolutely!

When primarily aiming for muscle gain, I will do 30% over maintenance on workout days with 10% under on cardio or rest days

For primarily a fat loss goal, I will do the reverse (10% over workout days, 30% under on cardio or rest days)

For recomp, I do 20% over and 20% under. Though I will tell you this way the progress is very slow on both muscle gain and fat loss, but it does work if you have it set up right.

Rick - if I was incorporating ADF can I hit HIGH CALS/CARBS on Lift days?
I am talking really high like double maintenance! and then NOTHING/NO FOOD day after - is this realistic for muscle gain/fat loss as long as the weekly overall cals even out?

Thanks!

 

[fkjr2]

Absolutely!

When primarily aiming for muscle gain, I will do 30% over maintenance on workout days with 10% under on cardio or rest days

For primarily a fat loss goal, I will do the reverse (10% over workout days, 30% under on cardio or rest days)

For recomp, I do 20% over and 20% under. Though I will tell you this way the progress is very slow on both muscle gain and fat loss, but it does work if you have it set up right.

Rick - if I was incorporating ADF can I hit HIGH CALS/CARBS on Lift days?
I am talking really high like double maintenance! and then NOTHING/NO FOOD day after - is this realistic for muscle gain/fat loss as long as the weekly overall cals even out?

Thanks!

 

[RickRock13]

Rick - if I was incorporating ADF can I hit HIGH CALS/CARBS on Lift days?
I am talking really high like double maintenance! and then NOTHING/NO FOOD day after - is this realistic for muscle gain/fat loss as long as the weekly overall cals even out?

Thanks!

Yes, that's actually very close to the way that ADF is set up to my knowledge. You have to overcompensate on your lifting days with a huge surplus for the lack of cals on your nonfed days. Should be pretty awesome for recomp if you are within the right calorie ranges IMO

 

[fkjr2]

Yes, that's actually very close to the way that ADF is set up to my knowledge. You have to overcompensate on your lifting days with a huge surplus for the lack of cals on your nonfed days. Should be pretty awesome for recomp if you are within the right calorie ranges IMO

so as long as I am hitting my weekly cals (Maintenance=17,500) + or - depending on my goal, etc, its ok to almost DOUBLE my cal intake on lift days? (while implementing ADF)

 

[RickRock13]

so as long as I am hitting my weekly cals (Maintenance=17,500) + or - depending on my goal, etc, its ok to almost DOUBLE my cal intake on lift days? (while implementing ADF)

Yes, as long as your average daily caloric intake is suited for your goal you are fine. That would mean if your maintenance is 17,500 per week then over 17,500 a week for more focus on muscle gain or less than 17,500 per week for more fat loss. Obviously the greater shift one way or another concentrates more on one way or another. You would probably want to be very close to the 17,500 for more recomp.