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Keto is something completely different than IF. When doing IF you are not going to put yourself into ketosis unless you are following a zero carb protocol on a daily basis, which is not what IF is about. A lot of us (including myself) incorporate a form of carb cycling into IF as a way of replenishing glycogen stores to saturation on workout days, then depleting those stores by following a low carb approach on cardio/rest days. The low carb diet coupled with burning the stores with cardio will deplete the glycogen and burn the fat. However ketosis is never the idea.
Some people have tried to incorporate Keto with IF, but it is not something I am a fan of because it compromises the goal of the protocol on workout days which is to replenish glycogen and build muscle with a caloric and carbohydrate surplus
This is an absolutely amazing source of information. I just today started IF and am still in the process of figuring out how to best adapt it for my purposes. My training goals/routine are far different from those of most people here so I'm going to have to customize it quite a bit. However, I have to say that going 16 hours without eating was a breeze today and I certainly had no issue putting down my calories during my feeding window (I may have lost 80 pounds in 2011, but I still have the appetite of a fat kid).
Good to hear that you are enjoying the information here, and that you are off to a great start on doing IF again.
If you need help with anything or getting anything set up just let me know!
The biggest challenge for me is going to be making sure I'm balancing the two goals I have in my workouts. Like most of us, the LGN (Look Good Naked) plan is a huge part of what I'm trying to do and as a result I want to maintain/build lean mass while cutting up. However, I'm also getting pretty into running and am considering some races/competitions, specifically trail running/races. So my cardio is not just designed to assist with the LGN plan, it's part of my training for those events. I run 4-6 days a week with most of those being 5 miles at a time and my weekend runs being 8+. I take a kettlebell-based bootcamp twice a week and also lift 3-4 times a week.
As a result, my training doesn't slide as easily into the workout v. cardio/rest day split you use. I need to figure out how to best structure my calorie totals and macros to support my training while still adding/maintaining lean mass and cutting bodyfat. Lofty goals I know, but I'm not one for taking the easy route.
As a result, my training doesn't slide as easily into the workout v. cardio/rest day split you use. I need to figure out how to best structure my calorie totals and macros to support my training while still adding/maintaining lean mass and cutting bodyfat. Lofty goals I know, but I'm not one for taking the easy route.
germaine91
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There are no magical fat burning properties associated with IF. It's a great tool for appetite control, done great at dispelling the 6 meals a day myth and can fit some people's lifestyle great. Aside from that, there's not much else.
You left out the outstanding level of success the people of this forum have reported in leaning out and building LBM while using IF....
So you mean aside from doing exactly what it's supposed to do, and what nearly every avid lifter strives for, there isn't much else....
Please don't engage him - it's like feeding wild animals, nothing good is going to come of it. He's never going concede a point no matter how many people testify to their success using IF. There's way too much good information in this thread to let it get ruined by another argument (like at least two or three others have been when this guy gets involved in them).
If that is your position and belief, Then what is your point coming in my thread?
Don't like it? Fine....don't do it and GTFO
George_Costanza
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Hi RickRock13,
Thanks for all the great information and the that you have been going out of your way to answer everyone's questions for so long now. I just came across this thread yesterday.
I have been doing IF for about a 7 months now, with great results. I love the lifestyle most of all and not having to worry about my muscles falling off when I don't eat.
I concur with what you say about having to watch not to over-eat. I have the same problem. If there is a feast, like Christmas dinner, I can eat forever. I have no stop function. I'm starting to think that I would be successful at my local pie-eating contest.
I have one question for you, if you would be so kind to answer. I'm starting my first cycle IF style. I was told by my IF coach, that when I was going to do a slow-bulk, I would continue with my same eating protocols, only raising my training day carbs by 50 and adding 50 carbs to my rest days. Once strength gains stop or stall, I should add another 50 carbs. Do you think this is sufficient? I will continue to gauge my weight and weekly strength increases.
I know that friends of mine who cycle, say I should eat anything I can get my hands on and eat up to 500 carbs/day. Off the juice, my training day carbs would be about 250-300, so 500 seems excessive.
According to my IF coach, calories don't matter, but macros do. A training day calorie count may only be about 2400 when I get my clean macros in. My juice friends say I should be consuming 5000-7000 calories/day. I think that's crazy!
6'6"
190lbs
8% BF
Training day: Protein/carbs/fat 180/300/45
Rest Day: 200/50/95
Thanks for all the great information and the that you have been going out of your way to answer everyone's questions for so long now. I just came across this thread yesterday.
I have been doing IF for about a 7 months now, with great results. I love the lifestyle most of all and not having to worry about my muscles falling off when I don't eat.
I concur with what you say about having to watch not to over-eat. I have the same problem. If there is a feast, like Christmas dinner, I can eat forever. I have no stop function. I'm starting to think that I would be successful at my local pie-eating contest.
I have one question for you, if you would be so kind to answer. I'm starting my first cycle IF style. I was told by my IF coach, that when I was going to do a slow-bulk, I would continue with my same eating protocols, only raising my training day carbs by 50 and adding 50 carbs to my rest days. Once strength gains stop or stall, I should add another 50 carbs. Do you think this is sufficient? I will continue to gauge my weight and weekly strength increases.
I know that friends of mine who cycle, say I should eat anything I can get my hands on and eat up to 500 carbs/day. Off the juice, my training day carbs would be about 250-300, so 500 seems excessive.
According to my IF coach, calories don't matter, but macros do. A training day calorie count may only be about 2400 when I get my clean macros in. My juice friends say I should be consuming 5000-7000 calories/day. I think that's crazy!
6'6"
190lbs
8% BF
Training day: Protein/carbs/fat 180/300/45
Rest Day: 200/50/95
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