Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below igf's timing is not as critical as mgf. so you can take igf post or pre-workout, mgf you have to take immediately post-workout; since mgf is a growth factor that is only released after muscle trauma(weight training). doses of igf are usually in the 50-100mcg range, where mgf is usually 200mcg. so you will get more hits from a vial of igf than mgf.. either should be ran for @4 weeks, after that your body becomes less sensitive. a few days or weeks will correct this. or you can rotate the two every month
IGF-1 LR3 or peg MGF
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Elvia1023
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Quite funny seeing this thread as I have 1 vial of MGF from about 2 years ago. It was from the Ergo days and I had a set amount of commission so I just added it onto my order. The funny part is I just mixed the vial yesterday... after years in the fridge. 1 vial will do nothing but my plan is 200mcg post workout when I can. I have never used it before and doubt 1 vial will do anything.
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IGF-1 LR3 how to use
Ok, I need a little bit of help...I have igf1-lr4. I've been trying to find a post or maybe a video on how to mix and inject? I still need to get the mixing B water. But I've been reading up and studying everything before I make the leap. So I need to knew what type of syringe and how much b water I mix with the lr4 bottle and then how to measure in syringe then where to inject? Thanks for the help bros!
Ok, I need a little bit of help...I have igf1-lr4. I've been trying to find a post or maybe a video on how to mix and inject? I still need to get the mixing B water. But I've been reading up and studying everything before I make the leap. So I need to knew what type of syringe and how much b water I mix with the lr4 bottle and then how to measure in syringe then where to inject? Thanks for the help bros!
Re: IGF-1 LR3 how to use
you can use either 29 or 31 gauge insulin needles. These are available from most chemists. They come in 1ml, 0.5ml, and 0.3ml. I use the 0.5ml 31 gauge. You can also buy them online along with a sharps bin and alcohol swabs.
IGF1-LR3 comes in 1mg bottles. Add 1ml of AA to the vial. The vials are often pressurized or vacuumed, so you may have subtract 1ml of air from the vial before you add 1ml of AA.
Now, if you mix in the ratio as suggested above this will give you 100mcg per 0.1ml, which is the 10th mark on an insulin needle... also referred to as 10 IUs.
Google "peptide calculator" and have a play around with the mixtures. You find all the mixing ratio and dosage info in the calculator... it's a really clever online Excel spreadsheet. Very handy.
As for the original post, which is now pretty old, I would choose IGF1-LR3 any day over MGF/PEG. MGF is stronger than IGF, so even if you inject IGF pre-workout, the natural production of MGF will be enough. You can do both, but if you can only afford one, then it should be IGF.
....AND THE PUMPS WITH IGF ARE INSANE!!!!!!!
Now, to convince you peeps about how awesome TB-500 is for strength. I've been using it for 3 months and added 20 kgs to my bench for the same amount of reps!! It's unreal, and it's healed up all my injuries. It's expensive and isn't anabolic, which is why I think most ppl ignore it, but it grows new blood vessles, which mean more oxygen and nutrients are getting to your muscles during and after training. It's crazy for strength increase.... and the more you can lift means the more you grow.... right??
I'm currently using: IGF1-LR3, Ipam, Mod-GRF, TB-500, Ligandrol (SARMS)... and, over the past 4 months, I've lost 7% bf, put on 5 kg and my strength has gone through the roof!
Peace yo,
Elcsum
EDIT: I forgot to mention that you can AA will keep any peptide stable at room temp for at least 1 year. There are studies proving this, but I couldn't be bothered looking for a reference, so you can take my word for it or not. This the best part about using AA over BA. I personally keep everything in the fridge once mixed, but the beauty of AA is that you can load a needle with 10 IUs / 100mcg of IGF1-LR3 (for example), take it to work (at room temp all day) and then backload 20IUs of BA water just prior to injecting. Obviously you don't need the BA water, but a0 it takes a bit of the sting out, and b) it's easier to accurately inject 15 IUs than 5 IUs, especially when we're talking about hitting triceps or somewhere else that's a little awkward.
you can use either 29 or 31 gauge insulin needles. These are available from most chemists. They come in 1ml, 0.5ml, and 0.3ml. I use the 0.5ml 31 gauge. You can also buy them online along with a sharps bin and alcohol swabs.
IGF1-LR3 comes in 1mg bottles. Add 1ml of AA to the vial. The vials are often pressurized or vacuumed, so you may have subtract 1ml of air from the vial before you add 1ml of AA.
Now, if you mix in the ratio as suggested above this will give you 100mcg per 0.1ml, which is the 10th mark on an insulin needle... also referred to as 10 IUs.
Google "peptide calculator" and have a play around with the mixtures. You find all the mixing ratio and dosage info in the calculator... it's a really clever online Excel spreadsheet. Very handy.
As for the original post, which is now pretty old, I would choose IGF1-LR3 any day over MGF/PEG. MGF is stronger than IGF, so even if you inject IGF pre-workout, the natural production of MGF will be enough. You can do both, but if you can only afford one, then it should be IGF.
....AND THE PUMPS WITH IGF ARE INSANE!!!!!!!
Now, to convince you peeps about how awesome TB-500 is for strength. I've been using it for 3 months and added 20 kgs to my bench for the same amount of reps!! It's unreal, and it's healed up all my injuries. It's expensive and isn't anabolic, which is why I think most ppl ignore it, but it grows new blood vessles, which mean more oxygen and nutrients are getting to your muscles during and after training. It's crazy for strength increase.... and the more you can lift means the more you grow.... right??
I'm currently using: IGF1-LR3, Ipam, Mod-GRF, TB-500, Ligandrol (SARMS)... and, over the past 4 months, I've lost 7% bf, put on 5 kg and my strength has gone through the roof!
Peace yo,
Elcsum
EDIT: I forgot to mention that you can AA will keep any peptide stable at room temp for at least 1 year. There are studies proving this, but I couldn't be bothered looking for a reference, so you can take my word for it or not. This the best part about using AA over BA. I personally keep everything in the fridge once mixed, but the beauty of AA is that you can load a needle with 10 IUs / 100mcg of IGF1-LR3 (for example), take it to work (at room temp all day) and then backload 20IUs of BA water just prior to injecting. Obviously you don't need the BA water, but a0 it takes a bit of the sting out, and b) it's easier to accurately inject 15 IUs than 5 IUs, especially when we're talking about hitting triceps or somewhere else that's a little awkward.
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John Juan
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I love the results from Igf1-Lr3. I didn't notice anything from peg mgf.
Acetic acid is convenient because it's good at room temp for two years but man does it burn like hell upon injection. Next time I'm going to just use bacteriostatic water and keep it refrigerated making sure I use the full vial within 20 days.
Just backload BA when you administer your dose. I mix it with AA (1m per mg), and then add 20 IUs of BA after I draw 10 IUs of mixed AA/IGF1-LR3. The 20 IUs of BA takes pretty much all the sting out of 10 IUs of AA. Straight up AA can sting a fair bit and continue to feel like someone's punched you in the tricep for 20 minutes afterwards. Up to you how you do it of course, but I like to mix it with AA so I can take it to work for the day and not worry about it going bad.
Hey John Juan, thanks for the advice! I could not be happier. I do have one more q and a for ya? See I don't think my IGF-1-LR3 came with aa? So do I need to order it? And if so who caries it? I know I've seen threads on how to make it at home. But ordering it would be way less conspicuous because of my living conditions...
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Oh. One more thing, would AA work the same way with Melanotan II? Or any peptides?
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Godzilla, what kinda results are you getting ? First igf cycle? How long is your cycle ?
Been toying with a igf stint myself but hearing mixed reviews
What protocol are u using ?
40/40 bi laterally?
Sorry for all the questions hard to find many real life examples of how this stuff works. (Feel free to chime in Anyone else with experience as well)
Cheers in advance
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Been toying with a igf stint myself but hearing mixed reviews
What protocol are u using ?
40/40 bi laterally?
Sorry for all the questions hard to find many real life examples of how this stuff works. (Feel free to chime in Anyone else with experience as well)
Cheers in advance
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