I fucking hate weighted pullups.

[rgosit]

chins are Much easier for me also...

its not even close..

 

[meadball]

i can do about 20-22 chins, 18-20 regular pullups, and 14-16 wide grip pullups. never in my life have pull-ups been easier than chins for me.

 

[b fold the truth]

This is so wild...never heard of anyone being able to do more chins (palms facing away from your face) than pull ups. I still think that chins hit your lats a lot more though. Maybe I am just weird...

B True

 

[frorider6]

...if you have a weak point...work it.

B True

The main reason I stick with it. Same goes for deadlifts.

 

[MarshallPenniford]

Bfold - there is a semantic issue here. Chins refer to any of the movements. Whether it is pronated or supinated is a different issue. Nobody was saying they can do more pronated then supinated.

At any rate, supinated chins do not work your back as well. It's really simple to understand. Not only do the lats not get as strong a contraction in this "less natural" position, but very simply, as explained above, the arm fails before the back - always. It's a weaker muscle. You want to put it in it's strongest position to avoid this happening for as long as possible. For some reason, many people don't understand this, you are not the only one to think that pronated chins are superior.

BTW - I love your Sunday posts - they rock! Good luck with your Strongman progress.

MP

 

[young guns]

b fold the truth: maybe people are considering chins to be palms facing you, which i thought was what you meant. they're alot easier for me too than palms facing away from me.

MarshallPenniford: i agree pronated pull ups are far superior. i've never gotten as much of a muscle contraction doing the supinated pull ups, much like reverse grip lat pulldowns aren't as effective for me as regular pulldowns.
(correct me if i'm wrong but pronated pulls is with the palms pointed away from the body right - i don't wanna be sayin the complete opposite of waht i mean)

 

[TerraNoble]

b fold the truth: maybe people are considering chins to be palms facing you, which i thought was what you meant. they're alot easier for me too than palms facing away from me.

MarshallPenniford: i agree pronated pull ups are far superior. i've never gotten as much of a muscle contraction doing the supinated pull ups, much like reverse grip lat pulldowns aren't as effective for me as regular pulldowns.
(correct me if i'm wrong but pronated pulls is with the palms pointed away from the body right - i don't wanna be sayin the complete opposite of waht i mean)

Just to make sure that we're on the same page here, the difference between a chin-up and a pull-up is the grip. Incidentally, the pull-up is a type of chin-up, technically.

Chins traditionally use a supinated grip (palms facing you), while pull-ups use a pronated grip (palms facing away from your body).

I am a firm believer that pull ups/chinups are one of the best overall back exerciseand for those hardcore pullups guy( I am one) I would suggest-Sternum chins-which I consider to be the undisputed king of compound exercises for the upper back.

The next link offer a excellent explanation and some variations of pullups/chinups. Some of them should not be attempted unless you can perform at least 12-14 correct pull ups.

Have fun and keep cranking those pull ups!

In my view pull ups are harder than chin ups...

here you go: http://www.testosterone.net/html/100back.html

 

[MarshallPenniford]

I screwed up in my post, what I meant to say was pronated chins are not superior to supinated. I said supinated where I meant to say pronated. Oops.

The palms-facing should be the best way as it delays the failing of the biceps as long as possible.

MP

 

[b fold the truth]

Ok...so I am totally confused...lol.

This is what I call a chin. This is what I consider to be the hardest for me by far as well as the best lat builder for myself. I also find it the most difficult to do. In this pic I am using a 2" thick bar to hold onto..it is smooth also.

Enjoy the fat guy doing chins...

B True

 

[bm2k]

That is what I would consider a pull-up.

A chin-up would be the same thing with a slightly closer, supinated grip.

Pull-ups are harder because the biceps brachii is ineffective in flexing the elbow when the forearm is pronated.